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The Iran War (was Nuclear Program) thread

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  • 89th8 89th

    You wonder how much this frustrates those who have dedicated their lives to middle east strategy, war games, policies, only to have Trump one day while eating a Big Mac say with a stuffed mouth "Hey, why don't we just bomb them and then send vulgar tweets with bluff threats?"

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    taiwan_girl
    wrote on last edited by taiwan_girl
    #1166

    @89th He really lacks a long term vision on so many things. Or maybe he thinks he does but is not able to make the necessary connections and potential consequences. Or maybe a combination of the above.

    But, long term vision for a politician is not easy, whether it is President Trump or somebody else They rarely look past the next election.

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      bachophile
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      #1167

      So S&P back to pre war levels. Will the bull market bounce back?

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      • jon-nycJ Offline
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        jon-nyc
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        #1168

        I’m not complaining

        Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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          jon-nyc
          wrote on last edited by
          #1169

          S&P hit a new high today.

          Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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            bachophile
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            #1170

            im not complaining either

            https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/15/business/stocks-record-iran-war.html

            “The market is trading assuming we have seen the worst of the conflict,” said Stefano Pascale, an equity analyst at Barclays."

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            • Tom-KT Offline
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              Tom-K
              wrote on last edited by
              #1171

              There are a lot of big energy and energy related companies on the S and P. And wars tend to stimulate the economy at least in the short term. Also there might be some Trump Fatigue Syndrome. Anyway, all good.

              Ego similis habere bonum et non curat nunquam accipere malum.

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                jon-nyc
                wrote on last edited by
                #1172

                Delivered in pallets, no doubt.

                Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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                • MikM Offline
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                  Mik
                  wrote last edited by
                  #1173

                  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/even-iran-s-european-appeasers-now-can-t-deny-the-ayatollahs-are-losing/ar-AA218q72

                  "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                  • W Offline
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                    Wim
                    wrote last edited by Wim
                    #1174

                    Horluz strait closed again

                    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2026/4/18/iran-closes-strait-of-hormuz-again-over-us-blockade-of-its-ports

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                    • MikM Offline
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                      #1175

                      Whiplash.

                      "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                      • W Wim

                        Horluz strait closed again

                        https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2026/4/18/iran-closes-strait-of-hormuz-again-over-us-blockade-of-its-ports

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                        Doctor Phibes
                        wrote last edited by
                        #1176

                        @Wim said:

                        Horluz strait closed again

                        Temporarily or permanently?

                        I was only joking

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                        • MikM Mik

                          Whiplash.

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                          Axtremus
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                          #1177

                          @Mik said:

                          Whiplash.

                          Ye of little faith, it’s just Trump thinking he’s playing 5D chess.

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                          • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                            @Wim said:

                            Horluz strait closed again

                            Temporarily or permanently?

                            W Offline
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                            Wim
                            wrote last edited by
                            #1178

                            @Doctor-Phibes No idea. Depends on negotiations next week I guess...

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                              "Hormuz is closed anyway. Also, closing Hormuz is good for us. And if they don't open Hormuz, I will end them!"

                              IMG_2001.jpeg

                              Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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                              • MikM Offline
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                                Mik
                                wrote last edited by
                                #1180

                                No one pays much attention to these rants anymore. Much noise and fury signifying nothing.

                                "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                                  Doctor Phibes
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                                  #1181

                                  What with Hegseth quoting fake biblical verses from Pulp Fiction, and Trump declaring the Strait is closed and open at the same time and always will be, it almost feels as if these guys don't know what they're talking about.

                                  I was only joking

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                                    taiwan_girl
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #1182

                                    It is that déjà vu feeling all over again. LOL

                                    I am starting to get this forum thread confused with the "sad cognitive decline of a president" forum thread.

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                                      It's really not that. This is just what he does. It is as constant as the north star, but that very consistency is its weakness. He always states the nuclear option, and everyone knows that's not what he wants to do or will do. The guy needs to learn some new tricks.

                                      "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                                      • MikM Mik

                                        It's really not that. This is just what he does. It is as constant as the north star, but that very consistency is its weakness. He always states the nuclear option, and everyone knows that's not what he wants to do or will do. The guy needs to learn some new tricks.

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                                        Renauda
                                        wrote last edited by Renauda
                                        #1184

                                        @Mik

                                        The guy needs to learn some new tricks.

                                        The first would be that foreign policy and trade are extensions of diplomacy, of which is nothing transactional or performative.

                                        Elbows up!

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                                          Mik
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #1185

                                          Now you're talking depth. I'm not sure that's deliverable.

                                          "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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