The Iran War (was Nuclear Program) thread

[jon-nyc]

Before you know it he’ll be negotiating Obama’s old JCPOA back into existence.

[89th]

You wonder how much this frustrates those who have dedicated their lives to middle east strategy, war games, policies, only to have Trump one day while eating a Big Mac say with a stuffed mouth "Hey, why don't we just bomb them and then send vulgar tweets with bluff threats?"

[taiwan_girl]

@89th He really lacks a long term vision on so many things. Or maybe he thinks he does but is not able to make the necessary connections and potential consequences. Or maybe a combination of the above.

But, long term vision for a politician is not easy, whether it is President Trump or somebody else They rarely look past the next election.

[bachophile]

So S&P back to pre war levels. Will the bull market bounce back?

[jon-nyc]

I’m not complaining

[jon-nyc]

S&P hit a new high today.

[bachophile]

im not complaining either

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/15/business/stocks-record-iran-war.html

“The market is trading assuming we have seen the worst of the conflict,” said Stefano Pascale, an equity analyst at Barclays."

[Tom-K]

There are a lot of big energy and energy related companies on the S and P. And wars tend to stimulate the economy at least in the short term. Also there might be some Trump Fatigue Syndrome. Anyway, all good.

[jon-nyc]

Delivered in pallets, no doubt.

[Mik]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/even-iran-s-european-appeasers-now-can-t-deny-the-ayatollahs-are-losing/ar-AA218q72

[Wim]

Horluz strait closed again

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2026/4/18/iran-closes-strait-of-hormuz-again-over-us-blockade-of-its-ports

[Mik]

Whiplash.

[Doctor Phibes]

@Wim said:

Horluz strait closed again

Temporarily or permanently?

[Axtremus]

@Mik said:

Whiplash.

Ye of little faith, it’s just Trump thinking he’s playing 5D chess.

[Wim]

@Doctor-Phibes No idea. Depends on negotiations next week I guess...

[jon-nyc]

"Hormuz is closed anyway. Also, closing Hormuz is good for us. And if they don't open Hormuz, I will end them!"

[Mik]

No one pays much attention to these rants anymore. Much noise and fury signifying nothing.

[Doctor Phibes]

What with Hegseth quoting fake biblical verses from Pulp Fiction, and Trump declaring the Strait is closed and open at the same time and always will be, it almost feels as if these guys don't know what they're talking about.

[taiwan_girl]

It is that déjà vu feeling all over again. LOL

I am starting to get this forum thread confused with the "sad cognitive decline of a president" forum thread.

[Mik]

It's really not that. This is just what he does. It is as constant as the north star, but that very consistency is its weakness. He always states the nuclear option, and everyone knows that's not what he wants to do or will do. The guy needs to learn some new tricks.