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  • bachophileB Offline
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    bachophile
    wrote last edited by bachophile
    #1106

    Shooting at Israeli consulate in Istanbul Turkey just now. Posting here because I’m assuming it’s Iran related.

    Warning a bit graphic. I don’t mean blood and guts but lots of shooting and men down. I can’t really tell who are the bad guys and who are the Turkish SWATS.

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    • bachophileB Offline
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      bachophile
      wrote last edited by
      #1107

      So. What’s the betting on polymarket for 8 pm?

      I say no to the powerplants. If anything, kharg island. But what the fuck do I know.

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      • AxtremusA Offline
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        Axtremus
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        #1108

        Just in case anyone cares about what Mr. Carlson has to say ...

        Link to video

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        • jon-nycJ Offline
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          jon-nyc
          wrote last edited by
          #1109

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          Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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          • X Offline
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            xenon
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            #1110

            This guy is and always has been deeply Unamerican.

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            • RenaudaR Offline
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              Renauda
              wrote last edited by Renauda
              #1111

              Stand down folks, it’s a two week ceasefire with conditions….

              Story unfolding.

              Elbows up!

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              • RenaudaR Renauda

                Stand down folks, it’s a two week ceasefire with conditions….

                Story unfolding.

                Doctor PhibesD Online
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                Doctor Phibes
                wrote last edited by
                #1112

                @Renauda said:

                Stand down folks, it’s a two week ceasefire with conditions….

                Story unfolding.

                Pass the tacos.

                I was only joking

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                • RenaudaR Offline
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                  Renauda
                  wrote last edited by Renauda
                  #1113

                  Indeed. All it seems to have accomplished diplomatically is turn the clock back to 27 February.

                  What the war has accomplished is to turn the economies of the Persian Gulf on their head and sow more Trump induced economic chaos globally.

                  Will be interesting to see in the upcoming days as to whether “open the Straits to safe and unfettered passage” has the same meaning in Farsi as it does in Trumpian English dialect.

                  Elbows up!

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                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

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                    AxtremusA Offline
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                    Axtremus
                    wrote last edited by
                    #1114

                    @jon-nyc said:

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                    Destroying a whole civilization.
                    Is that, like, genocidal?

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                    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                      @Renauda said:

                      Stand down folks, it’s a two week ceasefire with conditions….

                      Story unfolding.

                      Pass the tacos.

                      jon-nycJ Offline
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                      wrote last edited by
                      #1115

                      @Doctor-Phibes said:

                      @Renauda said:

                      Stand down folks, it’s a two week ceasefire with conditions….

                      Story unfolding.

                      Pass the tacos.

                      It is Tuesday.

                      Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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                      • jon-nycJ Offline
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                        #1116

                        This is being reported as the 10 point plan forming the basis of the ceasefire. Looks like a big L for the US.

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                        Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                          This is being reported as the 10 point plan forming the basis of the ceasefire. Looks like a big L for the US.

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                          RenaudaR Offline
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                          Renauda
                          wrote last edited by
                          #1117

                          @jon-nyc said:

                          This is being reported as the 10 point plan forming the basis of the ceasefire. Looks like a big L for the US.

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                          I think Trump’s friend Putin and his Foreign Minister, Lavrov wrote those points for the Iranians.

                          Elbows up!

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                          • MikM Away
                            MikM Away
                            Mik
                            wrote last edited by
                            #1118

                            Well, it may be better than targeting infrastructure that serves the population.

                            "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                            • jon-nycJ Offline
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                              #1119

                              120-140 ships a day traverse the strait per day in peacetime. If Iran gets to charge each of them $2MM, that’s a billion dollars every four days.

                              Makes Obama’s palates of cash look like chump change.

                              Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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                              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                120-140 ships a day traverse the strait per day in peacetime. If Iran gets to charge each of them $2MM, that’s a billion dollars every four days.

                                Makes Obama’s palates of cash look like chump change.

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                                kluurs
                                wrote last edited by
                                #1120

                                @jon-nyc said:

                                120-140 ships a day traverse the strait per day in peacetime. If Iran gets to charge each of them $2MM, that’s a billion dollars every four days.

                                Makes Obama’s palates of cash look like chump change.

                                Both Russia and Iran are making more money from the sale of oil thanks to the great leader’s efforts.

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                                • jon-nycJ Offline
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                                  jon-nyc
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #1121

                                  I suppose there’s still the possibility that the deal improves but it’s hard to imagine Iran making major concessions post ceasefire that it wasn’t willing to make with bombs raining down.

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                                  Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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                                  • MikM Away
                                    MikM Away
                                    Mik
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                                    #1122

                                    An interesting review of a book on imperial overreach.

                                    https://claremontreviewofbooks.com/the-lamps-are-going-out/?utm_content=375012188&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&hss_channel=fbp-164771506031

                                    "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                                    • MikM Mik

                                      An interesting review of a book on imperial overreach.

                                      https://claremontreviewofbooks.com/the-lamps-are-going-out/?utm_content=375012188&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&hss_channel=fbp-164771506031

                                      RenaudaR Offline
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                                      Renauda
                                      wrote last edited by Renauda
                                      #1123

                                      @Mik

                                      Westad’s book on the Cold War is one of the best I have ever read - and I have read at least a dozen or more on the subject over the years.

                                      This latest one on imperial overreach is now added to my running list of must reads.

                                      Elbows up!

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                                      • MikM Away
                                        MikM Away
                                        Mik
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #1124

                                        It's fascinating to see how events in history are linked and caused by prior events, and to examine the similarities.

                                        "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                                          blondie
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #1125

                                          I’m trying to wrap my head around this $2M per ship thing.

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