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The Iran War (was Nuclear Program) thread

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  • RenaudaR Renauda

    @kluurs

    I always was disheartened when Condoleezza Rice was shocked that anyone would use airliners as weapons.

    Interesting point, I wasn’t aware of that. In defence of Dr. Rice she was a recognized Russia expert and probably only had in process knowledge of the fanatical nature of the Islamic-fascism of Al Qaeda. I don’t think at the time she fully grasped the irrational and rabid mindset of the religious fanaticism of Bin Laden and his network of terrorists.

    Likewise, I am not certain current US leaders understand the depth of the religious fanaticism that determines the Iranian response to US ultimatums, threats and military strikes against their theocratic tyranny. The God laden Christian rhetoric (actually, unmitigated B.S.) from the likes of Hegseth only fuels the fire and lends nothing to the mission the troops are being asked to accomplish.

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    @Renauda said:

    @kluurs

    I always was disheartened when Condoleezza Rice was shocked that anyone would use airliners as weapons.

    Interesting point, I wasn’t aware of that. In defence of Dr. Rice she was a recognized Russia expert and probably only had in process knowledge of the fanatical nature of the Islamic-fascism of Al Qaeda. I don’t think at the time she fully grasped the irrational and rabid mindset of the religious fanaticism of Bin Laden and his network of terrorists.

    Likewise, I am not certain current US leaders understand the depth of the religious fanaticism that determines the Iranian response to US ultimatums, threats and military strikes against their theocratic tyranny. The God laden Christian rhetoric (actually, unmitigated B.S.) from the likes of Hegseth only fuels the fire and lends nothing to the mission the troops are being asked to accomplish.

    It is a bit surprising that he does not seem to recognize a regime at least as pugnacious as he is.

    "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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    • MikM Mik

      @Renauda said:

      @kluurs

      I always was disheartened when Condoleezza Rice was shocked that anyone would use airliners as weapons.

      Interesting point, I wasn’t aware of that. In defence of Dr. Rice she was a recognized Russia expert and probably only had in process knowledge of the fanatical nature of the Islamic-fascism of Al Qaeda. I don’t think at the time she fully grasped the irrational and rabid mindset of the religious fanaticism of Bin Laden and his network of terrorists.

      Likewise, I am not certain current US leaders understand the depth of the religious fanaticism that determines the Iranian response to US ultimatums, threats and military strikes against their theocratic tyranny. The God laden Christian rhetoric (actually, unmitigated B.S.) from the likes of Hegseth only fuels the fire and lends nothing to the mission the troops are being asked to accomplish.

      It is a bit surprising that he does not seem to recognize a regime at least as pugnacious as he is.

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      Renauda
      wrote last edited by Renauda
      #1105

      @Mik

      It is a bit surprising that he does not seem to recognize a regime at least as pugnacious as he is.

      A narcissist sociopath such as Trump will always seek to dominate others in all spheres of life. Call it tyranny. It works for them so long those victims they are reigning tyranny over accommodate their demands. There comes a point though that the accommodator begins to fight back often through being uncooperative. The narcissist tyrant cannot cope with accommodator’s uncooperative behaviour and sees himself as the victim of latter’s tyranny. I suspect that scenario is what is playing out in this war. Nato is refusing to accommodate Trump’s whims and demands and the Iranians are being wholly uncooperative by not surrendering when being told. Likewise we do not not know how accommodating the back rooms of the Pentagon and US government are in all this. Trump may very well be getting a first hand lesson on the real power behind the checks and balances on presidential powers robust American institutions actually wield. He is not coping very well at all because he cannot. It is that simple, he is too brittle for the role he has put himself.

      Elbows up!

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        #1106

        Shooting at Israeli consulate in Istanbul Turkey just now. Posting here because I’m assuming it’s Iran related.

        Warning a bit graphic. I don’t mean blood and guts but lots of shooting and men down. I can’t really tell who are the bad guys and who are the Turkish SWATS.

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          bachophile
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          #1107

          So. What’s the betting on polymarket for 8 pm?

          I say no to the powerplants. If anything, kharg island. But what the fuck do I know.

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            Just in case anyone cares about what Mr. Carlson has to say ...

            Link to video

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              Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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                #1110

                This guy is and always has been deeply Unamerican.

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                • RenaudaR Offline
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                  Renauda
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                  #1111

                  Stand down folks, it’s a two week ceasefire with conditions….

                  Story unfolding.

                  Elbows up!

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                  • RenaudaR Renauda

                    Stand down folks, it’s a two week ceasefire with conditions….

                    Story unfolding.

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                    @Renauda said:

                    Stand down folks, it’s a two week ceasefire with conditions….

                    Story unfolding.

                    Pass the tacos.

                    I was only joking

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                      Renauda
                      wrote last edited by Renauda
                      #1113

                      Indeed. All it seems to have accomplished diplomatically is turn the clock back to 27 February.

                      What the war has accomplished is to turn the economies of the Persian Gulf on their head and sow more Trump induced economic chaos globally.

                      Will be interesting to in upcoming days as to whether “open the Straits to safe and unfettered passage” has the same meaning in Farsi as it does in Trumpian English dialect.

                      Elbows up!

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