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The Iran War (was Nuclear Program) thread

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  • bachophileB Offline
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    bachophile
    wrote last edited by
    #1072

    The IRG published on tv a prize of $50000 bounty for any pilot. The place the plane went down is a very poor area and the kind of money is millions for us. Just praying the other is found soon.

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    • MikM Offline
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      Mik
      wrote last edited by
      #1073

      "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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        Renauda
        wrote last edited by
        #1074

        @Mik

        I get what Thorne is trying to explain and reason away in his tortured post factum analysis. It however misses the mark on two important aspects.

        The first being that it was the US itself following WWII that wanted its Western European allies to remain individually militarily weak but collectively allied with the US under NATO against the USSR and its satellites. Essentially the US would become the alternative major continental power to the Soviet Union, the position previously held by either France or Germany. Britain was never really part of the formula as it was never a continental power but rather a naval power with greatly diminished power projection abilities following WWII.

        The second being, there is no way the Trump Adminstration would reason or rationalize its current policies and plans under the guidance of Hegelian historicism. Like John Bolton, I am of the mind there is no grand plan or strategy governing Trump’s thoughts, pronouncements or actions let alone policy objectives extending beyond a week or so. In Trump’s mind a Hegelian dialectic would probably be something to relieve a gastrointestinal complaint.

        Elbows up!

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        • jon-nycJ Offline
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          jon-nyc
          wrote last edited by jon-nyc
          #1075

          Yeah politicians generally play checkers not chess, especially in democracies. That is when they’re not eating the pieces.

          Also there’s what’s known as the ‘myth of energy independence’. As if we can sit on our shores with $40 oil while huge swathes of the world just go without or pay 4x that.

          Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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          • jon-nycJ Offline
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            jon-nyc
            wrote last edited by jon-nyc
            #1076

            That said his outline of what’s happening seems correct. It’s what ending our role as a global superpower looks like.

            Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

              That said his outline of what’s happening seems correct. It’s what ending our role as a global superpower looks like.

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              Renauda
              wrote last edited by Renauda
              #1077

              @jon-nyc

              Yeah politicians generally play checkers not chess, especially in democracies. That is when they’re not eating the pieces..

              Trump plays Snakes and Ladders. Always has.

              That said his outline of what’s happening seems correct. It’s what ending our role as a global superpower looks like..

              US will still be the Mega superpower, but its core values will increasingly resemble the other nuclear superpowers.

              Elbows up!

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              • jon-nycJ Offline
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                jon-nyc
                wrote last edited by
                #1078

                Watch China wait until the war is over and make a deal with Iran to allow passage for all yuan-denominated oil deliveries.

                Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                  Watch China wait until the war is over and make a deal with Iran to allow passage for all yuan-denominated oil deliveries.

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                  Renauda
                  wrote last edited by Renauda
                  #1079

                  @jon-nyc said:

                  Watch China wait until the war is over and make a deal with Iran to allow passage for all yuan-denominated oil deliveries.

                  Possible. If so this Iran “excursion” will go down in history as Trump’s Folly.

                  Elbows up!

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                  • MikM Offline
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                    Mik
                    wrote last edited by
                    #1080

                    A piece on Iran's water problems.

                    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/iran-s-quiet-countdown-to-collapse/vi-AA1U6YRl

                    "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                    • jon-nycJ Offline
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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote last edited by jon-nyc
                      #1081

                      Recovered.

                      Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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                      • kluursK Offline
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                        kluurs
                        wrote last edited by
                        #1082

                        Great news a blessing for the holiday

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                        • bachophileB Offline
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                          bachophile
                          wrote last edited by
                          #1083

                          everyone here extremely relieved.

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                          • jon-nycJ Offline
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                            jon-nyc
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                            #1084

                            They’ll be making a movie out of this.

                            Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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                            • jon-nycJ Offline
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                              jon-nyc
                              wrote last edited by
                              #1085

                              Found via the CIA’s “unique capabilities”

                              Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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                                AndyD
                                wrote last edited by AndyD
                                #1086

                                Great news indeed, an impressive military action.

                                Though losing two helicopters and another plane in the process implies/proves that low level flight over Iran is a high risk, presumably from shoulder launched missiles?

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                                  jon-nyc
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #1087

                                  Detailed timeline

                                  Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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                                  • bachophileB Offline
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                                    bachophile
                                    wrote last edited by bachophile
                                    #1088

                                    Truth social just now

                                    Tuesday will be Power Plant Day, and Bridge Day, all wrapped up in one, in Iran. There will be nothing like it!!! Open the Fuckin’ Strait, you crazy bastards, or you’ll be living in Hell - JUST WATCH! Praise be to Allah. President DONALD J. TRUMP

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                                      89th
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                                      #1089

                                      Happy Easter! It’s a real message, too.

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                                      • MikM Offline
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                                        Mik
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #1090

                                        Is that the pot and the kettle?

                                        "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                                        • jon-nycJ Offline
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                                          jon-nyc
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                                          #1091

                                          He forgot to wish them a happy Easter

                                          Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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