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The Iran War (was Nuclear Program) thread

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  • Tom-KT Offline
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    Tom-K
    wrote last edited by
    #1065

    ^^^^
    Waiting is a two edged sword. The US doesn't necessarily have to "win" or have regime change to keep Iran in submission. The US can merely bomb Iran into the stone age on a regular basis, maybe every ten years or so and let nature take its course. And through bad planning and back luck Iran is going through an drought of Biblical proportions that may do more damage to Iran than all the bombs put together and as we saw there is a significant undercurrent of hostility to the severe Islamicism of the people running the country. America should drop its bombs and then see what happens.

    Flushing the toilet is like practicing the piano; you just cannot go too long without doing it.--Axtremus

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    • Tom-KT Tom-K

      ^^^^
      Waiting is a two edged sword. The US doesn't necessarily have to "win" or have regime change to keep Iran in submission. The US can merely bomb Iran into the stone age on a regular basis, maybe every ten years or so and let nature take its course. And through bad planning and back luck Iran is going through an drought of Biblical proportions that may do more damage to Iran than all the bombs put together and as we saw there is a significant undercurrent of hostility to the severe Islamicism of the people running the country. America should drop its bombs and then see what happens.

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      Renauda
      wrote last edited by
      #1066

      @Tom-K

      America should drop its bombs and then see what happens.

      It’s not so much what happens in Iran as a result of the bombs, it’s the unacceptable cost of the collateral damage to every supply chain and national economy beyond Iran’s borders that a campaign of bombing Iran “back to the stone ages” that matters.

      Elbows up!

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      • MikM Away
        MikM Away
        Mik
        wrote last edited by
        #1067

        We can learn a thing or two from Iran it seems. Also, watch the video in the article about the F-47. Impressive.

        https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/us-fields-a-low-cost-drone-modeled-on-iran-s-shahed-design/ar-AA201Zsn

        "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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        • bachophileB Offline
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          bachophile
          wrote last edited by
          #1068

          American F15 E strike eagle downed SW Iran. Two crew ejected.

          Search and rescue underway.

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            wrote last edited by
            #1069

            IMG_1678.jpeg

            Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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            • bachophileB bachophile

              American F15 E strike eagle downed SW Iran. Two crew ejected.

              Search and rescue underway.

              jon-nycJ Offline
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              wrote last edited by
              #1070

              @bachophile said:

              American F15 E strike eagle downed SW Iran. Two crew ejected.

              Search and rescue underway.

              Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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              • X Online
                X Online
                xenon
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                #1071

                That’s good news. Any word on if there was another crew member?

                Between Iran doing what they’ve done, being pissed off and Hegseth proclaiming “no quarter” - this is not good.

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                • bachophileB Offline
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                  wrote last edited by
                  #1072

                  The IRG published on tv a prize of $50000 bounty for any pilot. The place the plane went down is a very poor area and the kind of money is millions for us. Just praying the other is found soon.

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                  • MikM Away
                    MikM Away
                    Mik
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                    "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                      Renauda
                      wrote last edited by
                      #1074

                      @Mik

                      I get what Thorne is trying to explain and reason away in his tortured post factum analysis. It however misses the mark on two important aspects.

                      The first being that it was the US itself following WWII that wanted its Western European allies to remain individually militarily weak but collectively allied with the US under NATO against the USSR and its satellites. Essentially the US would become the alternative major continental power to the Soviet Union, the position previously held by either France or Germany. Britain was never really part of the formula as it was never a continental power but rather a naval power with greatly diminished power projection abilities following WWII.

                      The second being, there is no way the Trump Adminstration would reason or rationalize its current policies and plans under the guidance of Hegelian historicism. Like John Bolton, I am of the mind there is no grand plan or strategy governing Trump’s thoughts, pronouncements or actions let alone policy objectives extending beyond a week or so. In Trump’s mind a Hegelian dialectic would probably be something to relieve a gastrointestinal complaint.

                      Elbows up!

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