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The Iran War (was Nuclear Program) thread

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  • bachophileB bachophile

    American F15 E strike eagle downed SW Iran. Two crew ejected.

    Search and rescue underway.

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    #1070

    @bachophile said:

    American F15 E strike eagle downed SW Iran. Two crew ejected.

    Search and rescue underway.

    Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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      #1071

      That’s good news. Any word on if there was another crew member?

      Between Iran doing what they’ve done, being pissed off and Hegseth proclaiming “no quarter” - this is not good.

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        #1072

        The IRG published on tv a prize of $50000 bounty for any pilot. The place the plane went down is a very poor area and the kind of money is millions for us. Just praying the other is found soon.

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          "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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            Renauda
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            #1074

            @Mik

            I get what Thorne is trying to explain and reason away in his tortured post factum analysis. It however misses the mark on two important aspects.

            The first being that it was the US itself following WWII that wanted its Western European allies to remain individually militarily weak but collectively allied with the US under NATO against the USSR and its satellites. Essentially the US would become the alternative major continental power to the Soviet Union, the position previously held by either France or Germany. Britain was never really part of the formula as it was never a continental power but rather a naval power with greatly diminished power projection abilities following WWII.

            The second being, there is no way the Trump Adminstration would reason or rationalize its current policies and plans under the guidance of Hegelian historicism. Like John Bolton, I am of the mind there is no grand plan or strategy governing Trump’s thoughts, pronouncements or actions let alone policy objectives extending beyond a week or so. In Trump’s mind a Hegelian dialectic would probably be something to relieve a gastrointestinal complaint.

            Elbows up!

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              jon-nyc
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              #1075

              Yeah politicians generally play checkers not chess, especially in democracies. That is when they’re not eating the pieces.

              Also there’s what’s known as the ‘myth of energy independence’. As if we can sit on our shores with $40 oil while huge swathes of the world just go without or pay 4x that.

              Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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                jon-nyc
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                #1076

                That said his outline of what’s happening seems correct. It’s what ending our role as a global superpower looks like.

                Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                  That said his outline of what’s happening seems correct. It’s what ending our role as a global superpower looks like.

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                  #1077

                  @jon-nyc

                  Yeah politicians generally play checkers not chess, especially in democracies. That is when they’re not eating the pieces..

                  Trump plays Snakes and Ladders. Always has.

                  That said his outline of what’s happening seems correct. It’s what ending our role as a global superpower looks like..

                  US will still be the Mega superpower, but its core values will increasingly resemble the other nuclear superpowers.

                  Elbows up!

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                    #1078

                    Watch China wait until the war is over and make a deal with Iran to allow passage for all yuan-denominated oil deliveries.

                    Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                      Watch China wait until the war is over and make a deal with Iran to allow passage for all yuan-denominated oil deliveries.

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                      @jon-nyc said:

                      Watch China wait until the war is over and make a deal with Iran to allow passage for all yuan-denominated oil deliveries.

                      Possible. If so this Iran “excursion”’go down in history as Trump’s Folly.

                      Elbows up!

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