The Iran Nuclear Program thread
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wrote on 25 Jun 2025, 01:20 last edited by
Trump has spent the last couple of hours making multiple posts how the bombs obliterated everything.... which probably means they didn't... sigh...
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wrote on 25 Jun 2025, 01:33 last edited by
Our problem is no believable source.
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wrote on 25 Jun 2025, 10:33 last edited by
Iranian government have arrested 700 people to suppress dissent.
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wrote on 25 Jun 2025, 10:52 last edited by
@Mik said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:
Our problem is no believable source.
Do you miss the day when Obama announced "we got Bin Laden" on TV and the world just believed him?
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wrote on 25 Jun 2025, 11:35 last edited by
@Mik said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:
Our problem is no believable source.
That's the problem, we don't have a clue who's telling the truth. Or even if anyone knows what the truth is. Every news station trots out their retired 3 or 4 star general (I don't even listen to colonels) or atomic energy PhD and no two has the same opinion about anything.
I am somewhat partial to Rebecca Grant PhD over at Fox, though. She gets all excited and squeaky when she's talking about Tomahawk missiles being fired off.
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@Mik said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:
Our problem is no believable source.
That's the problem, we don't have a clue who's telling the truth. Or even if anyone knows what the truth is. Every news station trots out their retired 3 or 4 star general (I don't even listen to colonels) or atomic energy PhD and no two has the same opinion about anything.
I am somewhat partial to Rebecca Grant PhD over at Fox, though. She gets all excited and squeaky when she's talking about Tomahawk missiles being fired off.
wrote on 25 Jun 2025, 11:45 last edited by@Tom-K said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:
She gets all excited and squeaky when she's talking about Tomahawk missiles being fired off.
Now we finally get to learn what the dash means in your name! "AHAW"
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wrote on 25 Jun 2025, 12:32 last edited by
Well, missiles are rather phallic.
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wrote on 25 Jun 2025, 12:36 last edited by
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@Mik said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:
Our problem is no believable source.
Do you miss the day when Obama announced "we got Bin Laden" on TV and the world just believed him?
wrote on 25 Jun 2025, 12:37 last edited by@Axtremus said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:
@Mik said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:
Our problem is no believable source.
Do you miss the day when Obama announced "we got Bin Laden" on TV and the world just believed him?
I didn't really believe it until it was verified by DNA. I feel similarly here, but no DNA applies.
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@Axtremus said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:
@Mik said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:
Our problem is no believable source.
Do you miss the day when Obama announced "we got Bin Laden" on TV and the world just believed him?
I didn't really believe it until it was verified by DNA. I feel similarly here, but no DNA applies.
wrote on 25 Jun 2025, 13:15 last edited by@Mik said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:
@Axtremus said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:
@Mik said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:
Our problem is no believable source.
Do you miss the day when Obama announced "we got Bin Laden" on TV and the world just believed him?
I didn't really believe it until it was verified by DNA. I feel similarly here, but no DNA applies.
Hard comparison. There was no doubt in my mind when Obama said we got Bin Laden. If Trump said the same, I would believe him too since it's pretty clear whether we got an individual. But in this case about destroying a nuclear facility 80 meters under ground, I very much do not trust what Trump says based on his very consistent track record of lying and exaggerating. I think we made that point a few weeks ago here, that Trump will be hard to trust on war matters, and we're seeing it here. I know one thing... it would be awkward as shit if footage is released of Fordow still operating.
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wrote on 25 Jun 2025, 13:16 last edited by
That being said, if we dropped 14 MOPs on the target, I'd have to imagine most of the internal infrastructure is a pile of collapsed rock now.
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@Axtremus said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:
@jon-nyc said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:
Why do I feel like Trump is about to get rolled?
Rolled in what way(s)?
I purposefully wasn't specific. In all the ways one can get rolled.
wrote on 25 Jun 2025, 13:20 last edited by@jon-nyc said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:
In all the ways one can get rolled.
Reminds me of Jack Dawson, who saved Rose in all the ways a person can be saved.
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That being said, if we dropped 14 MOPs on the target, I'd have to imagine most of the internal infrastructure is a pile of collapsed rock now.
wrote on 25 Jun 2025, 13:21 last edited by@89th said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:
That being said, if we dropped 14 MOPs on the target, I'd have to imagine most of the internal infrastructure is a pile of collapsed rock now.
It seems possible that we dropped the bombs into rock, and that the explosions were mostly contained by rock.
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wrote on 25 Jun 2025, 13:22 last edited by
I think this thread presents a good opportunity to reflect on Titanic, the movie, not the real event, which was comparatively boring. It is good to remind ourselves of the power of love, and that rich white males are such douchebags. Carry that thought with you always and you will be saved.
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@89th said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:
That being said, if we dropped 14 MOPs on the target, I'd have to imagine most of the internal infrastructure is a pile of collapsed rock now.
It seems possible that we dropped the bombs into rock, and that the explosions were mostly contained by rock.
wrote on 25 Jun 2025, 13:25 last edited by@Horace said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:
@89th said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:
That being said, if we dropped 14 MOPs on the target, I'd have to imagine most of the internal infrastructure is a pile of collapsed rock now.
It seems possible that we dropped the bombs into rock, and that the explosions were mostly contained by rock.
There are also questions about that new ultradense concrete, though how much could have been poured between levels in the few years since it was developed is questionable.
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I think this thread presents a good opportunity to reflect on Titanic, the movie, not the real event, which was comparatively boring. It is good to remind ourselves of the power of love, and that rich white males are such douchebags. Carry that thought with you always and you will be saved.
wrote on 25 Jun 2025, 13:28 last edited by@Horace said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:
I think this thread presents a good opportunity to reflect on Titanic, the movie, not the real event, which was comparatively boring. It is good to remind ourselves of the power of love, and that rich white males are such douchebags. Carry that thought with you always and you will be saved.
You know, it's this type of Titanic movie analysis that really keeps me coming back to the internet.
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@Horace said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:
I think this thread presents a good opportunity to reflect on Titanic, the movie, not the real event, which was comparatively boring. It is good to remind ourselves of the power of love, and that rich white males are such douchebags. Carry that thought with you always and you will be saved.
You know, it's this type of Titanic movie analysis that really keeps me coming back to the internet.
wrote on 25 Jun 2025, 13:36 last edited by@89th said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:
@Horace said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:
I think this thread presents a good opportunity to reflect on Titanic, the movie, not the real event, which was comparatively boring. It is good to remind ourselves of the power of love, and that rich white males are such douchebags. Carry that thought with you always and you will be saved.
You know, it's this type of Titanic movie analysis that really keeps me coming back to the internet.
That is great.
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That being said, if we dropped 14 MOPs on the target, I'd have to imagine most of the internal infrastructure is a pile of collapsed rock now.
wrote on 25 Jun 2025, 13:50 last edited by jon-nyc@89th said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:
That being said, if we dropped 14 MOPs on the target, I'd have to imagine most of the internal infrastructure is a pile of collapsed rock now.
It comes down to how deep/reinforced they were. Really the latter. The Iranians were aware of the (published) specs of the MOP and were trying to upgrade the concrete to that it couldn't go as deep. That would be one way the underground facility could have survived. Again, though, who knows?
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wrote on 25 Jun 2025, 14:09 last edited by
Fordow is one thing, but it's also true they now know that Israel is quite capable, and willing given the incentive, to crush their defenses and economy at will.
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wrote on 25 Jun 2025, 17:31 last edited by