The Iran Nuclear Program thread
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This is a really interesting op-ed from an Israeli journalist, obviously not a fan of Netanyahu. But he presents some worthwhile observations and possibilities.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/netanyahu-s-iran-endgame-is-edging-closer/ar-AA1H1be5
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There sure was, and it's a perspective we don't usually find here.
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So it’s been 48 hours since the night that was supposed to be remembered for centuries….
wrote 27 days ago last edited by@LuFins-Dad said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:
So it’s been 48 hours since the night that was supposed to be remembered for centuries….
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This is a really interesting op-ed from an Israeli journalist, obviously not a fan of Netanyahu. But he presents some worthwhile observations and possibilities.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/netanyahu-s-iran-endgame-is-edging-closer/ar-AA1H1be5
wrote 27 days ago last edited by@Mik said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:
This is a really interesting op-ed from an Israeli journalist, obviously not a fan of Netanyahu. But he presents some worthwhile observations and possibilities.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/netanyahu-s-iran-endgame-is-edging-closer/ar-AA1H1be5
From the op-ed:
And then there’s a wildcard unique to the Iran situation. Even this very dire but familiar scenario relies on the assumption that Israel and America really do know everything about Iran’s nuclear programme and that there wasn’t an emergency, undeclared backup stash of materials and a secret cadre. If there was, and even some of it survives, there will still be a race for the bomb — except the bomb, or bombs, will appear in a fractured, unstable, justifiably paranoid region in a state of civil war. An entirely new nightmare with consequences far beyond Netanyahu and Trump’s terms, or even lifetimes.
That seems obvious, but I agree it's not said out loud much.
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@Mik said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:
This is a really interesting op-ed from an Israeli journalist, obviously not a fan of Netanyahu. But he presents some worthwhile observations and possibilities.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/netanyahu-s-iran-endgame-is-edging-closer/ar-AA1H1be5
From the op-ed:
And then there’s a wildcard unique to the Iran situation. Even this very dire but familiar scenario relies on the assumption that Israel and America really do know everything about Iran’s nuclear programme and that there wasn’t an emergency, undeclared backup stash of materials and a secret cadre. If there was, and even some of it survives, there will still be a race for the bomb — except the bomb, or bombs, will appear in a fractured, unstable, justifiably paranoid region in a state of civil war. An entirely new nightmare with consequences far beyond Netanyahu and Trump’s terms, or even lifetimes.
That seems obvious, but I agree it's not said out loud much.
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The Mossad stole 100k documents out of a warehouse that completely documented the program. Problem is, Iran knows that. Some things are hard to change though, especially under-mountain architecture and reactor locations.
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Yeah, that’s a non-starter. Israel wants peace with all. Iran’s is death to everyone but us. There’s no equivalence to be found.
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Trump posted this.
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@jon-nyc said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:
Jesus no.
They're actually saying that they were told that a bunker buster is enough to get the job done - the tactical nuke sounds like complete speculation by Fox and The Guardian.
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To use a nuke to prevent nukes would be the height of hypocrisy.
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@Mik said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:
To use a nuke to prevent nukes would be the height of hypocrisy.
That's an interesting statement. It must surely depend on intent?
Batant aggression, self defence etc.When a person intends to kill you, has said so, written their intention for all to see, and is fastening a blade to a broom handle in order to kill you, is it wrong for you to use your spear to defend yourself preemptively?
And in our case we would only be destroying their spear making capabilities. In the hope that they could eventually change. Maybe spend the billions on agriculture instead of spears.
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Yeah, that’s a non-starter. Israel wants peace with all. Iran’s is death to everyone but us. There’s no equivalence to be found.
wrote 26 days ago last edited by kluurs@Mik said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:
Israel wants peace
Many (most?) Israeli's do - BUT just as in America, there are some very powerful and influential Israelis who want that PLUS a lot of land and more. Israel, like he US, has some significant parts of its population who have very different (contradictory) objectives.
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@Mik said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:
To use a nuke to prevent nukes would be the height of hypocrisy.
That's an interesting statement. It must surely depend on intent?
Batant aggression, self defence etc.When a person intends to kill you, has said so, written their intention for all to see, and is fastening a blade to a broom handle in order to kill you, is it wrong for you to use your spear to defend yourself preemptively?
And in our case we would only be destroying their spear making capabilities. In the hope that they could eventually change. Maybe spend the billions on agriculture instead of spears.
