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  • M Away
    M Away
    Mik
    wrote 30 days ago last edited by
    #233

    I’m not getting any confirmation.

    "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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    • J jon-nyc
      30 days ago

      MagaRat Taylor Greene is against it.

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      Renauda
      wrote 30 days ago last edited by Renauda
      #234

      @jon-nyc said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

      MagaRat Taylor Greene is against it.

      It, MTG, is so virtuous.

      Elbows up!

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      • M Away
        M Away
        Mik
        wrote 30 days ago last edited by
        #235

        I just love people who want to define what a real American is.

        "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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        • 8 Online
          8 Online
          89th
          wrote 30 days ago last edited by
          #236

          Once again I've been offline for a few hours, just put the kids to bed, and now I get my news updates from TNCR! Interesting to scan this thread over the last few hours.

          My first thought as @jon-nyc was posting the market odds was... I could see Trump going in for the "gimme putt" after Israel does most of the work, so that we can claim victory.

          Nonetheless, Jon you are right there are things we do well and things we don't. Blow shit up is one thing we do really well. And will it cause WW3? I doubt it. I'm not an expert in the slightest, but I can't imagine the big boys like China or Russia are willing to jump into the poker hand for Iran. The folks that count on Iran seem to be the weaker Islamic countries that don't have many chips to play poker with in the first place. So WW3? Doubtful. Iran losing and regime change? Probably... although could be decades of chaos within as a result. Maybe that's a good thing, better than a well-armed and/or nuclear Iran that threatens Israel's existence and by proxy, the western free world.

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          • M Away
            M Away
            Mik
            wrote 30 days ago last edited by
            #237

            I think what we need to consider is just how deep the centrifuges at Fordo are. There’s no guarantee the MOPs would be successful.

            "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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              Renauda
              wrote 30 days ago last edited by
              #238

              Am more drawn to analyses of events and crises such as this and Ukraine.

              A an old friend of mine who lives in Ottawa sent me the following. Pretty compelling reading about Israel’s capabilities and Iran’s lack thereof. A few parallels with what Ukraine has been achieving lately against Russia. Both wars will be studied at military academies for some time to come.

              Elbows up!

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              • J Online
                J Online
                jon-nyc
                wrote 29 days ago last edited by
                #239

                lol.

                They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                • J Online
                  J Online
                  jon-nyc
                  wrote 29 days ago last edited by jon-nyc
                  #240

                  This guy raises a good point. It’s been a tough week for team drones. (Though to be fair Israel’s initial wave included drones that had been smuggled into Iran)

                  They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                  • J Online
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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote 29 days ago last edited by
                    #241

                    China is advising its citizens to leave Iran immediately.

                    They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                    • R Renauda
                      30 days ago

                      Am more drawn to analyses of events and crises such as this and Ukraine.

                      A an old friend of mine who lives in Ottawa sent me the following. Pretty compelling reading about Israel’s capabilities and Iran’s lack thereof. A few parallels with what Ukraine has been achieving lately against Russia. Both wars will be studied at military academies for some time to come.

                      M Away
                      M Away
                      Mik
                      wrote 29 days ago last edited by
                      #242

                      @Renauda said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                      Am more drawn to analyses of events and crises such as this and Ukraine.

                      A an old friend of mine who lives in Ottawa sent me the following. Pretty compelling reading about Israel’s capabilities and Iran’s lack thereof. A few parallels with what Ukraine has been achieving lately against Russia. Both wars will be studied at military academies for some time to come.

                      Great piece. Thanks.

                      "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                      • M Away
                        M Away
                        Mik
                        wrote 29 days ago last edited by
                        #243

                        https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/i-m-iranian-some-here-are-cheering-israeli-air-strikes-and-i-understand-why/ar-AA1GR4vs?cmp_prftch=2

                        "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                        • M Away
                          M Away
                          Mik
                          wrote 29 days ago last edited by
                          #244

                          "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                          • J Online
                            J Online
                            jon-nyc
                            wrote 29 days ago last edited by
                            #245

                            Ok maybe I can think of a worse job. At least at Fordo there’s a chance it gets attacked when you’re off duty.

                            They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                            • J Online
                              J Online
                              jon-nyc
                              wrote 29 days ago last edited by jon-nyc
                              #246

                              The best case I’ve heard against regime change. The title is more polemic than the piece.

                              https://unherd.com/2025/06/the-regime-change-maniacs-are-back/?us

                              They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                              • M Away
                                M Away
                                Mik
                                wrote 29 days ago last edited by
                                #247

                                We've..scratch that, make it they.. have learned nothing. The Iranian people don't want us to come in and direct regime change. The people have to do that.

                                "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                                • J Online
                                  J Online
                                  jon-nyc
                                  wrote 29 days ago last edited by
                                  #248

                                  Yeah but we’ve seen in the region with the green revolutions that there’s a high risk of Islamist takeover arising from chaos.

                                  They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                                  • J Online
                                    J Online
                                    jon-nyc
                                    wrote 29 days ago last edited by jon-nyc
                                    #249

                                    Seems like an honest answer re Tulsi.

                                    They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                                    • M Away
                                      M Away
                                      Mik
                                      wrote 29 days ago last edited by
                                      #250

                                      Yet. But they are amassing the materials to do so.

                                      "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                                      • J jon-nyc
                                        29 days ago

                                        Yeah but we’ve seen in the region with the green revolutions that there’s a high risk of Islamist takeover arising from chaos.

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                                        Renauda
                                        wrote 29 days ago last edited by Renauda
                                        #251

                                        @jon-nyc said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                                        Yeah but we’ve seen in the region with the green revolutions that there’s a high risk of Islamist takeover arising from chaos.

                                        Which is exactly what happened in Iran in 1979. The revolution began as an urban middle class revolt against autocracy
                                        and was quickly usurped by fanatic anti Western clerics who support base resided in primarily rural areas and urban poor communities.

                                        Elbows up!

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                                        • J Online
                                          J Online
                                          jon-nyc
                                          wrote 29 days ago last edited by
                                          #252

                                          Islam is foul.

                                          It’s been a while since I posted that. Don’t want anyone to forget.

                                          They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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