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What did you get done last week? Elon wants to know...

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  • D Doctor Phibes
    23 Feb 2025, 16:03

    @Horace said in What did you get done last week? Elon wants to know...:

    Kash tells his people to ignore that email:

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/kash-patel-tells-fbi-staff-to-ignore-elon-musks-demand-report/ar-AA1zBXuf?ocid=BingNewsSerp

    Oh this could be fun to watch.

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    Jolly
    wrote on 23 Feb 2025, 16:19 last edited by
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    @Doctor-Phibes said in What did you get done last week? Elon wants to know...:

    @Horace said in What did you get done last week? Elon wants to know...:

    Kash tells his people to ignore that email:

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/kash-patel-tells-fbi-staff-to-ignore-elon-musks-demand-report/ar-AA1zBXuf?ocid=BingNewsSerp

    Oh this could be fun to watch.

    Two alpha dawgs, fer shur.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      Horace
      wrote on 23 Feb 2025, 16:49 last edited by
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      Now the heads of all the other branches are going to be shamed into protecting their people too.

      Education is extremely important.

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        jon-nyc
        wrote on 23 Feb 2025, 18:15 last edited by
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        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
        -Cormac McCarthy

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          Jolly
          wrote on 23 Feb 2025, 18:33 last edited by
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          Andy, you couldn't even spell ketamine two weeks ago. Thank you for your input.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            jon-nyc
            wrote on 23 Feb 2025, 18:58 last edited by
            #23

            Now State.

            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
            -Cormac McCarthy

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              Mik
              wrote on 23 Feb 2025, 19:20 last edited by
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              The Empire strikes back. Had to happen

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                Axtremus
                wrote on 23 Feb 2025, 19:39 last edited by
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                What do you do if your “five work-related accomplishments” are supposed to be classified information?

                Will the OPM get many emails about TPS reports?

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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on 23 Feb 2025, 20:05 last edited by
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                  Tulsi Gabbard, the director of the office of national intelligence, ordered all intelligence community officers not to respond, in a message reviewed by The New York Times.

                  “Given the inherently sensitive and classified nature of our work, I.C. employees should not respond to the OPM email,” Ms. Gabbard wrote.

                  "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                  -Cormac McCarthy

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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on 23 Feb 2025, 20:06 last edited by
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                    DoD:

                    Employees at the Defense Department were also told to not comply with the email.

                    “The Department of Defense is responsible for reviewing the performance of its personnel and it will conduct any review in accordance with its own procedures,” Darin S. Selnick, the acting Pentagon official in charge of personnel, said in a statement.

                    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                    -Cormac McCarthy

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                      Renauda
                      wrote on 23 Feb 2025, 20:15 last edited by Renauda
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                      Musk appears to have gone a bridge too far.

                      Looks like the ax might be about to fall on the hatchet man.

                      Mixed metaphors intentional.

                      Elbows up!

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                        Horace
                        wrote on 23 Feb 2025, 20:49 last edited by
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                        Any agency that submits to the demand will now be known as a toothless agency with a weak leader.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                          Rich
                          wrote on 23 Feb 2025, 20:52 last edited by
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                          Or, couldn't they just be known as an agency that isn't engaged in national security matters?

                          Seems the difference in FBI, DoD, etc, should be clearly distinguishable from Dept of Transportation, or whatever.

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                            Horace
                            wrote on 23 Feb 2025, 20:55 last edited by
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                            They all have their own internal rules of employee performance review, which is the reasoning being stated by the leaders of the organizations that are pushing back. The request already specifies that no sensitive information should be provided by the employees.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                              jon-nyc
                              wrote on 24 Feb 2025, 10:41 last edited by
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                              Elon doubling down.

                              "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                              -Cormac McCarthy

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                                Mik
                                wrote on 24 Feb 2025, 13:07 last edited by
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                                The question is who you must show it to.

                                Too much of this is for public consumption. "Look what we're DOING for you!".

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  Doctor Phibes
                                  wrote on 24 Feb 2025, 14:05 last edited by
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                                  In any decently run company, managers will know what their employees are doing without having them send emails justifying their existence.

                                  If the manager doesn't know, then he's the one who should be justifying his existence.

                                  I was only joking

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                                    Mik
                                    wrote on 24 Feb 2025, 14:40 last edited by
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                                    There's a little too much "slacking federal workers are the enemy" for my tastes.

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    • M Mik
                                      24 Feb 2025, 14:40

                                      There's a little too much "slacking federal workers are the enemy" for my tastes.

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                                      Copper
                                      wrote on 24 Feb 2025, 14:45 last edited by
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                                      @Mik said in What did you get done last week? Elon wants to know...:

                                      slacking

                                      Slacking used to be expected.

                                      "We pretend to work"
                                      "And they pretend to pay us"

                                      Low wages were paid for slacking, I think slacking pays better now.

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                                      • M Mik
                                        22 Feb 2025, 23:26

                                        There are different ways of thinking about this. In such a large endeavor, meticulousness can lead to analysis paralysis, and government is much given to that.

                                        I'm not sure it would be possible to get a great grasp on understanding the culture of federal employees, certainly not within the timeframe of one four-year term. I do think though that it might be better to just an across the board 5% cut this year, fix what's broken, another 5% next year and so on.

                                        A lot of times when large cuts come some things do not continue getting done. very often they are things that don't really need to get done. That's not to say all will be peaches and cream, but here is no way we're going to get spending down painlessly.

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                                        89th
                                        wrote on 24 Feb 2025, 15:43 last edited by
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                                        @Mik said in What did you get done last week? Elon wants to know...:

                                        There are different ways of thinking about this. In such a large endeavor, meticulousness can lead to analysis paralysis, and government is much given to that.

                                        I'm not sure it would be possible to get a great grasp on understanding the culture of federal employees, certainly not within the timeframe of one four-year term. I do think though that it might be better to just an across the board 5% cut this year, fix what's broken, another 5% next year and so on.

                                        Yeah there is a middle ground to this. I've said this elsewhere. The "move fast and break things" works in iterative software development and makes for good headlines with those outside the government who think most federal workers are just wastes of space... but there is a smarter way to do this that avoids analysis paralysis but also avoids the "oops we just lost the talented folks who help prevent the hacking of our grid, or the people who are watching over our nuke stockpile, or the people helping veterans use their health and education benefits".

                                        You are right, IMO that it's better to force cuts (I've said this before even Trump)... let agency leaders (like private industry) find where the fat is and cut it. But the RTO, early retirement 8-months of pay, and "oops we need to re-hire you because you didn't reply to Elon's email), is doing nothing but costing the taxpayer more, in net.

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                                        • D Doctor Phibes
                                          24 Feb 2025, 14:05

                                          In any decently run company, managers will know what their employees are doing without having them send emails justifying their existence.

                                          If the manager doesn't know, then he's the one who should be justifying his existence.

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                                          89th
                                          wrote on 24 Feb 2025, 15:45 last edited by
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                                          @Doctor-Phibes said in What did you get done last week? Elon wants to know...:

                                          In any decently run company, managers will know what their employees are doing without having them send emails justifying their existence.

                                          If the manager doesn't know, then he's the one who should be justifying his existence.

                                          LOL ain't that the truth

                                          And federal agencies generally know too, but are often not allowed to reduce staff or fire people. One good thing Trump did in his first term was remove some of the red tape needed to fire a bad employee. I think that was Schedule F, but not sure. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schedule_F_appointment

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