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  • LuFins DadL Offline
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    LuFins Dad
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    #410

    Okay, we’ll put you in the no column. 5,999,999 to go..

    The Brad

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    • jon-nycJ Offline
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      jon-nyc
      wrote on last edited by
      #411

      They’d lose more than that in health and retirement benefits.

      You were warned.

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      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

        They’d lose more than that in health and retirement benefits.

        LuFins DadL Offline
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        LuFins Dad
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        #412

        @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

        They’d lose more than that in health and retirement benefits.

        Shhhhhhh….

        The Brad

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        • HoraceH Online
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          Horace
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          #413

          I've heard this statistic about how Canada's per capita domestic product is lower than the lowest American state, Mississippi. I wonder if that's a tricky thing to compare, maybe having to do with health care industry expenses being included or excluded depending on whether it's privatized in a country. I doubt CA standard of living is lower than MS on average.

          Education is extremely important.

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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            They’d lose more than that in health and retirement benefits.

            LuFins DadL Offline
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            LuFins Dad
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            #414

            @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

            They’d lose more than that in health and retirement benefits.

            There would be no reason for that. They have the funds and the programs already built. There is no reason that they can’t continue. States can have their own state run healthcare and retirement plans if they choose…

            The Brad

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            • HoraceH Horace

              I've heard this statistic about how Canada's per capita domestic product is lower than the lowest American state, Mississippi. I wonder if that's a tricky thing to compare, maybe having to do with health care industry expenses being included or excluded depending on whether it's privatized in a country. I doubt CA standard of living is lower than MS on average.

              RenaudaR Offline
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              Renauda
              wrote on last edited by Renauda
              #415

              I've heard this statistic about how Canada's per capita domestic product is lower than the lowest American state, Mississippi.

              I’ve also heard stories that some UEssers, we call U’alls (mostly from or residing in former secessionist states), also thInk Canadians live in teepees and igloos.

              Elbows up!

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              • HoraceH Horace

                @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                Billboard Chris has an interesting proposal. Why don’t we just buy Canada? Offer every living Canadian resident $100K if they vote to become part of the US… That would be about $4 Trillion… A lot of money, but think of the resources!

                You'd only need to buy 51% of the votes. Maybe only pay the women to vote for it. That way, opposition to the plan would be misogynistic.

                AxtremusA Away
                AxtremusA Away
                Axtremus
                wrote on last edited by
                #416

                @Horace said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                Maybe only pay the women to vote for it.

                And pay them only 83¢ for every dollar you would pay the men to do the same, amirite?

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                • AxtremusA Axtremus

                  @Horace said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                  Maybe only pay the women to vote for it.

                  And pay them only 83¢ for every dollar you would pay the men to do the same, amirite?

                  HoraceH Online
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                  Horace
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #417

                  @Axtremus that is customary.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                    @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                    They’d lose more than that in health and retirement benefits.

                    There would be no reason for that. They have the funds and the programs already built. There is no reason that they can’t continue. States can have their own state run healthcare and retirement plans if they choose…

                    jon-nycJ Offline
                    jon-nycJ Offline
                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #418

                    @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                    @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                    They’d lose more than that in health and retirement benefits.

                    There would be no reason for that. They have the funds and the programs already built. There is no reason that they can’t continue. States can have their own state run healthcare and retirement plans if they choose…

                    Not really workable with a single payer system. What’s to stop people from moving to Toronto when they need expensive treatment?

                    You were warned.

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                    • X Online
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                      xenon
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                      #419

                      Canadian also pay a huge state (provincial) tax. American federal rates plus provincial rates would likely push effective tax rates for Canadians to above 50%.

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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                        @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                        They’d lose more than that in health and retirement benefits.

                        There would be no reason for that. They have the funds and the programs already built. There is no reason that they can’t continue. States can have their own state run healthcare and retirement plans if they choose…

                        Not really workable with a single payer system. What’s to stop people from moving to Toronto when they need expensive treatment?

                        LuFins DadL Offline
                        LuFins DadL Offline
                        LuFins Dad
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #420

                        @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                        @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                        @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                        They’d lose more than that in health and retirement benefits.

                        There would be no reason for that. They have the funds and the programs already built. There is no reason that they can’t continue. States can have their own state run healthcare and retirement plans if they choose…

                        Not really workable with a single payer system. What’s to stop people from moving to Toronto when they need expensive treatment?

                        It would be simple enough to prorate for those that would try to abuse the system.

                        The Brad

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                        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                          @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                          @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                          @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                          They’d lose more than that in health and retirement benefits.

                          There would be no reason for that. They have the funds and the programs already built. There is no reason that they can’t continue. States can have their own state run healthcare and retirement plans if they choose…

                          Not really workable with a single payer system. What’s to stop people from moving to Toronto when they need expensive treatment?

                          It would be simple enough to prorate for those that would try to abuse the system.

                          RenaudaR Offline
                          RenaudaR Offline
                          Renauda
                          wrote on last edited by Renauda
                          #421

                          @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                          @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                          @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                          @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                          They’d lose more than that in health and retirement benefits.

                          There would be no reason for that. They have the funds and the programs already built. There is no reason that they can’t continue. States can have their own state run healthcare and retirement plans if they choose…

                          Not really workable with a single payer system. What’s to stop people from moving to Toronto when they need expensive treatment?

                          It would be simple enough to prorate for those that would try to abuse the system.

                          Doesn’t work that way. If Inmove to Toronto tomorrow and fall ill my current provincial health care picks up the tab for the next six months at which time Ontario residency then comes into effect and Ontario insurance takes over. There are sometimes differentials between provinces that need to covered out of pocket. As well as exemptions for some categories of seniors.

                          If you really want to know the system here works ask bach. He knows it better than any Canadian on this forum.

                          Elbows up!

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                          • RenaudaR Renauda

                            @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                            @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                            @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                            @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                            They’d lose more than that in health and retirement benefits.

                            There would be no reason for that. They have the funds and the programs already built. There is no reason that they can’t continue. States can have their own state run healthcare and retirement plans if they choose…

                            Not really workable with a single payer system. What’s to stop people from moving to Toronto when they need expensive treatment?

                            It would be simple enough to prorate for those that would try to abuse the system.

                            Doesn’t work that way. If Inmove to Toronto tomorrow and fall ill my current provincial health care picks up the tab for the next six months at which time Ontario residency then comes into effect and Ontario insurance takes over. There are sometimes differentials between provinces that need to covered out of pocket. As well as exemptions for some categories of seniors.

                            If you really want to know the system here works ask bach. He knows it better than any Canadian on this forum.

                            LuFins DadL Offline
                            LuFins DadL Offline
                            LuFins Dad
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #422

                            @Renauda said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                            @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                            @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                            @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                            @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                            They’d lose more than that in health and retirement benefits.

                            There would be no reason for that. They have the funds and the programs already built. There is no reason that they can’t continue. States can have their own state run healthcare and retirement plans if they choose…

                            Not really workable with a single payer system. What’s to stop people from moving to Toronto when they need expensive treatment?

                            It would be simple enough to prorate for those that would try to abuse the system.

                            Doesn’t work that way. If Inmove to Toronto tomorrow and fall ill my current provincial health care picks up the tab for the next six months at which time Ontario residency then comes into effect and Ontario insurance takes over. There are sometimes differentials between provinces that need to covered out of pocket. As well as exemptions for some categories of seniors.

                            If you really want to know the system here works ask bach. He knows it better than any Canadian on this forum.

                            That’s still essentially irrelevant. The individual Canadian States could easily allow reciprocity within their individual state health systems while excluding states that do not have single payer. If a resident would move from one of the original 50 states, they would be required to maintain COBRA or independent health insurance until a predetermined amount of time established by your province/states. Now, the pain would be if you moved to another state that didn’t have Single Payer and you then had to acquire insurance…

                            The interesting thing to me would be to see How many new states would introduce Single Payer systems. I’ve always wondered what has prevented a large liberal state like California from introducing their own Single Payer system.

                            The other interesting thing to see would be migration. Would the new states see a large influx of new residents?

                            The Brad

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                            • LuFins DadL Offline
                              LuFins DadL Offline
                              LuFins Dad
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #423

                              But now that you brought it up, what are the rates like for the uncovered? If I was visiting Alberta, and had a sudden acute appendicitis, I’m sure I would get a surgery and care, but how exactly would that work? My insurance but out of network? Or would I be completely on the hook?

                              The Brad

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                              • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                @Renauda said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                They’d lose more than that in health and retirement benefits.

                                There would be no reason for that. They have the funds and the programs already built. There is no reason that they can’t continue. States can have their own state run healthcare and retirement plans if they choose…

                                Not really workable with a single payer system. What’s to stop people from moving to Toronto when they need expensive treatment?

                                It would be simple enough to prorate for those that would try to abuse the system.

                                Doesn’t work that way. If Inmove to Toronto tomorrow and fall ill my current provincial health care picks up the tab for the next six months at which time Ontario residency then comes into effect and Ontario insurance takes over. There are sometimes differentials between provinces that need to covered out of pocket. As well as exemptions for some categories of seniors.

                                If you really want to know the system here works ask bach. He knows it better than any Canadian on this forum.

                                That’s still essentially irrelevant. The individual Canadian States could easily allow reciprocity within their individual state health systems while excluding states that do not have single payer. If a resident would move from one of the original 50 states, they would be required to maintain COBRA or independent health insurance until a predetermined amount of time established by your province/states. Now, the pain would be if you moved to another state that didn’t have Single Payer and you then had to acquire insurance…

                                The interesting thing to me would be to see How many new states would introduce Single Payer systems. I’ve always wondered what has prevented a large liberal state like California from introducing their own Single Payer system.

                                The other interesting thing to see would be migration. Would the new states see a large influx of new residents?

                                RenaudaR Offline
                                RenaudaR Offline
                                Renauda
                                wrote on last edited by Renauda
                                #424

                                @LuFins-Dad

                                Sorry but I am not m going any further down this road. You have been corrected and the remainder, as you say, is irrelevant.

                                No part of what you republocrats are discussing is going to happen. Canada will remain sovereign and under Westminster Parliamentary governance.

                                Elbows up!

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                                • CopperC Online
                                  CopperC Online
                                  Copper
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                                  #425

                                  There seems to be some sentiment against making Canada the 51st.

                                  It might be easier to just take a few good provinces, and then let the others just catch up over time.

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                                  • CopperC Copper

                                    There seems to be some sentiment against making Canada the 51st.

                                    It might be easier to just take a few good provinces, and then let the others just catch up over time.

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                                    Doctor Phibes
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                                    #426

                                    @Copper said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                    There seems to be some sentiment against making Canada the 51st.

                                    It might be easier to just take a few good provinces, and then let the others just catch up over time.

                                    A far simpler solution would be for the US to ditch its pretentions of being a real country, and re-join Great Britain. You'd get to share head of state with Canada and everything.

                                    Go on, you know you want it.

                                    I was only joking

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                                    • CopperC Online
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                                      Copper
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                                      #427

                                      A real king might be fun.

                                      Ragnar Lothbrok, Elvis Presley or Brian Boru for example

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                                      • CopperC Copper

                                        A real king might be fun.

                                        Ragnar Lothbrok, Elvis Presley or Brian Boru for example

                                        Doctor PhibesD Offline
                                        Doctor PhibesD Offline
                                        Doctor Phibes
                                        wrote on last edited by Doctor Phibes
                                        #428

                                        @Copper said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                        A real king might be fun.

                                        Ragnar Lothbrok, Elvis Presley or Brian Boru for example

                                        They're all dead. All you've really got left is Burger King, and he's running the gaff now.

                                        I was only joking

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                                        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                          @Copper said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                          A real king might be fun.

                                          Ragnar Lothbrok, Elvis Presley or Brian Boru for example

                                          They're all dead. All you've really got left is Burger King, and he's running the gaff now.

                                          W Do not disturb
                                          W Do not disturb
                                          Wim
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #429

                                          @Doctor-Phibes 😁😁😁

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