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  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

    They’d lose more than that in health and retirement benefits.

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    #414

    @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

    They’d lose more than that in health and retirement benefits.

    There would be no reason for that. They have the funds and the programs already built. There is no reason that they can’t continue. States can have their own state run healthcare and retirement plans if they choose…

    The Brad

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    • HoraceH Horace

      I've heard this statistic about how Canada's per capita domestic product is lower than the lowest American state, Mississippi. I wonder if that's a tricky thing to compare, maybe having to do with health care industry expenses being included or excluded depending on whether it's privatized in a country. I doubt CA standard of living is lower than MS on average.

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      Renauda
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      #415

      I've heard this statistic about how Canada's per capita domestic product is lower than the lowest American state, Mississippi.

      I’ve also heard stories that some UEssers, we call U’alls (mostly from or residing in former secessionist states), also thInk Canadians live in teepees and igloos.

      Elbows up!

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      • HoraceH Horace

        @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

        Billboard Chris has an interesting proposal. Why don’t we just buy Canada? Offer every living Canadian resident $100K if they vote to become part of the US… That would be about $4 Trillion… A lot of money, but think of the resources!

        You'd only need to buy 51% of the votes. Maybe only pay the women to vote for it. That way, opposition to the plan would be misogynistic.

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        @Horace said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

        Maybe only pay the women to vote for it.

        And pay them only 83¢ for every dollar you would pay the men to do the same, amirite?

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        • AxtremusA Axtremus

          @Horace said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

          Maybe only pay the women to vote for it.

          And pay them only 83¢ for every dollar you would pay the men to do the same, amirite?

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          Horace
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          #417

          @Axtremus that is customary.

          Education is extremely important.

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          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

            @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

            They’d lose more than that in health and retirement benefits.

            There would be no reason for that. They have the funds and the programs already built. There is no reason that they can’t continue. States can have their own state run healthcare and retirement plans if they choose…

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            #418

            @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

            @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

            They’d lose more than that in health and retirement benefits.

            There would be no reason for that. They have the funds and the programs already built. There is no reason that they can’t continue. States can have their own state run healthcare and retirement plans if they choose…

            Not really workable with a single payer system. What’s to stop people from moving to Toronto when they need expensive treatment?

            You were warned.

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              Canadian also pay a huge state (provincial) tax. American federal rates plus provincial rates would likely push effective tax rates for Canadians to above 50%.

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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                They’d lose more than that in health and retirement benefits.

                There would be no reason for that. They have the funds and the programs already built. There is no reason that they can’t continue. States can have their own state run healthcare and retirement plans if they choose…

                Not really workable with a single payer system. What’s to stop people from moving to Toronto when they need expensive treatment?

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                LuFins Dad
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                #420

                @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                They’d lose more than that in health and retirement benefits.

                There would be no reason for that. They have the funds and the programs already built. There is no reason that they can’t continue. States can have their own state run healthcare and retirement plans if they choose…

                Not really workable with a single payer system. What’s to stop people from moving to Toronto when they need expensive treatment?

                It would be simple enough to prorate for those that would try to abuse the system.

                The Brad

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                • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                  @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                  @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                  @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                  They’d lose more than that in health and retirement benefits.

                  There would be no reason for that. They have the funds and the programs already built. There is no reason that they can’t continue. States can have their own state run healthcare and retirement plans if they choose…

                  Not really workable with a single payer system. What’s to stop people from moving to Toronto when they need expensive treatment?

                  It would be simple enough to prorate for those that would try to abuse the system.

                  RenaudaR Offline
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                  Renauda
                  wrote on last edited by Renauda
                  #421

                  @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                  @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                  @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                  @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                  They’d lose more than that in health and retirement benefits.

                  There would be no reason for that. They have the funds and the programs already built. There is no reason that they can’t continue. States can have their own state run healthcare and retirement plans if they choose…

                  Not really workable with a single payer system. What’s to stop people from moving to Toronto when they need expensive treatment?

                  It would be simple enough to prorate for those that would try to abuse the system.

                  Doesn’t work that way. If Inmove to Toronto tomorrow and fall ill my current provincial health care picks up the tab for the next six months at which time Ontario residency then comes into effect and Ontario insurance takes over. There are sometimes differentials between provinces that need to covered out of pocket. As well as exemptions for some categories of seniors.

                  If you really want to know the system here works ask bach. He knows it better than any Canadian on this forum.

                  Elbows up!

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                  • RenaudaR Renauda

                    @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                    @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                    @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                    @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                    They’d lose more than that in health and retirement benefits.

                    There would be no reason for that. They have the funds and the programs already built. There is no reason that they can’t continue. States can have their own state run healthcare and retirement plans if they choose…

                    Not really workable with a single payer system. What’s to stop people from moving to Toronto when they need expensive treatment?

                    It would be simple enough to prorate for those that would try to abuse the system.

                    Doesn’t work that way. If Inmove to Toronto tomorrow and fall ill my current provincial health care picks up the tab for the next six months at which time Ontario residency then comes into effect and Ontario insurance takes over. There are sometimes differentials between provinces that need to covered out of pocket. As well as exemptions for some categories of seniors.

                    If you really want to know the system here works ask bach. He knows it better than any Canadian on this forum.

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                    @Renauda said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                    @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                    @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                    @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                    @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                    They’d lose more than that in health and retirement benefits.

                    There would be no reason for that. They have the funds and the programs already built. There is no reason that they can’t continue. States can have their own state run healthcare and retirement plans if they choose…

                    Not really workable with a single payer system. What’s to stop people from moving to Toronto when they need expensive treatment?

                    It would be simple enough to prorate for those that would try to abuse the system.

                    Doesn’t work that way. If Inmove to Toronto tomorrow and fall ill my current provincial health care picks up the tab for the next six months at which time Ontario residency then comes into effect and Ontario insurance takes over. There are sometimes differentials between provinces that need to covered out of pocket. As well as exemptions for some categories of seniors.

                    If you really want to know the system here works ask bach. He knows it better than any Canadian on this forum.

                    That’s still essentially irrelevant. The individual Canadian States could easily allow reciprocity within their individual state health systems while excluding states that do not have single payer. If a resident would move from one of the original 50 states, they would be required to maintain COBRA or independent health insurance until a predetermined amount of time established by your province/states. Now, the pain would be if you moved to another state that didn’t have Single Payer and you then had to acquire insurance…

                    The interesting thing to me would be to see How many new states would introduce Single Payer systems. I’ve always wondered what has prevented a large liberal state like California from introducing their own Single Payer system.

                    The other interesting thing to see would be migration. Would the new states see a large influx of new residents?

                    The Brad

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                    • LuFins DadL Offline
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                      LuFins Dad
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                      But now that you brought it up, what are the rates like for the uncovered? If I was visiting Alberta, and had a sudden acute appendicitis, I’m sure I would get a surgery and care, but how exactly would that work? My insurance but out of network? Or would I be completely on the hook?

                      The Brad

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                      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                        @Renauda said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                        @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                        @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                        @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                        @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                        They’d lose more than that in health and retirement benefits.

                        There would be no reason for that. They have the funds and the programs already built. There is no reason that they can’t continue. States can have their own state run healthcare and retirement plans if they choose…

                        Not really workable with a single payer system. What’s to stop people from moving to Toronto when they need expensive treatment?

                        It would be simple enough to prorate for those that would try to abuse the system.

                        Doesn’t work that way. If Inmove to Toronto tomorrow and fall ill my current provincial health care picks up the tab for the next six months at which time Ontario residency then comes into effect and Ontario insurance takes over. There are sometimes differentials between provinces that need to covered out of pocket. As well as exemptions for some categories of seniors.

                        If you really want to know the system here works ask bach. He knows it better than any Canadian on this forum.

                        That’s still essentially irrelevant. The individual Canadian States could easily allow reciprocity within their individual state health systems while excluding states that do not have single payer. If a resident would move from one of the original 50 states, they would be required to maintain COBRA or independent health insurance until a predetermined amount of time established by your province/states. Now, the pain would be if you moved to another state that didn’t have Single Payer and you then had to acquire insurance…

                        The interesting thing to me would be to see How many new states would introduce Single Payer systems. I’ve always wondered what has prevented a large liberal state like California from introducing their own Single Payer system.

                        The other interesting thing to see would be migration. Would the new states see a large influx of new residents?

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                        Renauda
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                        #424

                        @LuFins-Dad

                        Sorry but I am not m going any further down this road. You have been corrected and the remainder, as you say, is irrelevant.

                        No part of what you republocrats are discussing is going to happen. Canada will remain sovereign and under Westminster Parliamentary governance.

                        Elbows up!

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                          Copper
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                          There seems to be some sentiment against making Canada the 51st.

                          It might be easier to just take a few good provinces, and then let the others just catch up over time.

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                          • CopperC Copper

                            There seems to be some sentiment against making Canada the 51st.

                            It might be easier to just take a few good provinces, and then let the others just catch up over time.

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                            #426

                            @Copper said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                            There seems to be some sentiment against making Canada the 51st.

                            It might be easier to just take a few good provinces, and then let the others just catch up over time.

                            A far simpler solution would be for the US to ditch its pretentions of being a real country, and re-join Great Britain. You'd get to share head of state with Canada and everything.

                            Go on, you know you want it.

                            I was only joking

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                              Copper
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                              #427

                              A real king might be fun.

                              Ragnar Lothbrok, Elvis Presley or Brian Boru for example

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                              • CopperC Copper

                                A real king might be fun.

                                Ragnar Lothbrok, Elvis Presley or Brian Boru for example

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                                Doctor Phibes
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                                #428

                                @Copper said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                A real king might be fun.

                                Ragnar Lothbrok, Elvis Presley or Brian Boru for example

                                They're all dead. All you've really got left is Burger King, and he's running the gaff now.

                                I was only joking

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                                • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                  @Copper said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                  A real king might be fun.

                                  Ragnar Lothbrok, Elvis Presley or Brian Boru for example

                                  They're all dead. All you've really got left is Burger King, and he's running the gaff now.

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                                  Wim
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                                  #429

                                  @Doctor-Phibes 😁😁😁

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                                  • CopperC Copper

                                    There seems to be some sentiment against making Canada the 51st.

                                    It might be easier to just take a few good provinces, and then let the others just catch up over time.

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                                    @Copper said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                    There seems to be some sentiment against making Canada the 51st.

                                    Really? Sentiment, you say. I would call it something else.

                                    It might be easier to just take a few good provinces, and then let the others just catch up over time.

                                    Might easier if idiots such as you shut up since you have nothing to say on the matter any way.

                                    Elbows up!

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                                      OTOH, there might be states that would like to join Canada. Perhaps there is something in all of this crazy talk. Rebel states could reinstitute slavery - and the North joins Canada.

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                                      • RenaudaR Renauda

                                        @Copper said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                        There seems to be some sentiment against making Canada the 51st.

                                        Really? Sentiment, you say. I would call it something else.

                                        It might be easier to just take a few good provinces, and then let the others just catch up over time.

                                        Might easier if idiots such as you shut up since you have nothing to say on the matter any way.

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                                        @Renauda said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                        Might easier if idiots such as you shut up since you have nothing to say on the matter any way.

                                        I have a lot more to say about it than you, I am a voter. You will be told what your role is when the time comes.

                                        Study for the Test, English and Civics: https://www.uscis.gov/citizenship/find-study-materials-and-resources/study-for-the-test

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                                        • CopperC Copper

                                          @Renauda said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                          Might easier if idiots such as you shut up since you have nothing to say on the matter any way.

                                          I have a lot more to say about it than you, I am a voter. You will be told what your role is when the time comes.

                                          Study for the Test, English and Civics: https://www.uscis.gov/citizenship/find-study-materials-and-resources/study-for-the-test

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                                          Renauda
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                                          #433

                                          @Copper said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                          @Renauda said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                          Might easier if idiots such as you shut up since you have nothing to say on the matter any way.

                                          I have a lot more to say about it than you, I am a voter. You will be told what your role is when the time comes.

                                          Study for the Test, English and Civics: https://www.uscis.gov/citizenship/find-study-materials-and-resources/study-for-the-test

                                          You have sweet fuck all to say about this topic.

                                          And the time has come for me to tell you about your role…

                                          You’re a voting idiot, a Trumpsucking one at that and a bastard Copperhead as well. You know fucking well what a Copperhead is and it is not a compliment to a northern bred Yank prick like you.

                                          Now either do what I told you and get out my corner or fuck off and die. Preferably the latter.

                                          In the meantime you can kiss my arse with your reactionary MAGAt bullshit.

                                          Elbows up!

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