Skip to content
  • Categories
  • Recent
  • Tags
  • Popular
  • Users
  • Groups
Skins
  • Light
  • Cerulean
  • Cosmo
  • Flatly
  • Journal
  • Litera
  • Lumen
  • Lux
  • Materia
  • Minty
  • Morph
  • Pulse
  • Sandstone
  • Simplex
  • Sketchy
  • Spacelab
  • United
  • Yeti
  • Zephyr
  • Dark
  • Cyborg
  • Darkly
  • Quartz
  • Slate
  • Solar
  • Superhero
  • Vapor

  • Default (No Skin)
  • No Skin
Collapse

The New Coffee Room

  1. TNCR
  2. General Discussion
  3. Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread

Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved General Discussion
496 Posts 17 Posters 13.6k Views
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • LuFins DadL Offline
    LuFins DadL Offline
    LuFins Dad
    wrote on last edited by
    #404

    Billboard Chris has an interesting proposal. Why don’t we just buy Canada? Offer every living Canadian resident $100K if they vote to become part of the US… That would be about $4 Trillion… A lot of money, but think of the resources!

    The Brad

    HoraceH 1 Reply Last reply
    • LuFins DadL Offline
      LuFins DadL Offline
      LuFins Dad
      wrote on last edited by
      #405

      And yes, I know it doesn’t work that way… Just found it amusing…

      The Brad

      RenaudaR 1 Reply Last reply
      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

        Billboard Chris has an interesting proposal. Why don’t we just buy Canada? Offer every living Canadian resident $100K if they vote to become part of the US… That would be about $4 Trillion… A lot of money, but think of the resources!

        HoraceH Offline
        HoraceH Offline
        Horace
        wrote on last edited by Horace
        #406

        @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

        Billboard Chris has an interesting proposal. Why don’t we just buy Canada? Offer every living Canadian resident $100K if they vote to become part of the US… That would be about $4 Trillion… A lot of money, but think of the resources!

        You'd only need to buy 51% of the votes. Maybe only pay the women to vote for it. That way, opposition to the plan would be misogynistic.

        Education is extremely important.

        LuFins DadL AxtremusA 2 Replies Last reply
        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

          And yes, I know it doesn’t work that way… Just found it amusing…

          RenaudaR Offline
          RenaudaR Offline
          Renauda
          wrote on last edited by Renauda
          #407

          @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

          And yes, I know it doesn’t work that way… Just found it amusing…

          We however, are not amused.

          Not in the least.

          Elbows up!

          1 Reply Last reply
          • HoraceH Horace

            @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

            Billboard Chris has an interesting proposal. Why don’t we just buy Canada? Offer every living Canadian resident $100K if they vote to become part of the US… That would be about $4 Trillion… A lot of money, but think of the resources!

            You'd only need to buy 51% of the votes. Maybe only pay the women to vote for it. That way, opposition to the plan would be misogynistic.

            LuFins DadL Offline
            LuFins DadL Offline
            LuFins Dad
            wrote on last edited by
            #408

            @Horace said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

            @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

            Billboard Chris has an interesting proposal. Why don’t we just buy Canada? Offer every living Canadian resident $100K if they vote to become part of the US… That would be about $4 Trillion… A lot of money, but think of the resources!

            You'd only need to buy 51% of the votes. Maybe only pay the women to vote for it. That way, opposition to the plan would be misogynistic.

            Well, technically only 50% of the population is registered to vote, so you really only need like 26% of the population, which brings the cost down to $1 Trillion. But to assure you win the vote, you really need to go every man woman and child’s. I might say no if I am getting $100K, but $400K for my family?

            The Brad

            1 Reply Last reply
            • RenaudaR Offline
              RenaudaR Offline
              Renauda
              wrote on last edited by
              #409

              Never.

              Elbows up!

              1 Reply Last reply
              • LuFins DadL Offline
                LuFins DadL Offline
                LuFins Dad
                wrote on last edited by
                #410

                Okay, we’ll put you in the no column. 5,999,999 to go..

                The Brad

                1 Reply Last reply
                • jon-nycJ Online
                  jon-nycJ Online
                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #411

                  They’d lose more than that in health and retirement benefits.

                  Only non-witches get due process.

                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
                  LuFins DadL 2 Replies Last reply
                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                    They’d lose more than that in health and retirement benefits.

                    LuFins DadL Offline
                    LuFins DadL Offline
                    LuFins Dad
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #412

                    @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                    They’d lose more than that in health and retirement benefits.

                    Shhhhhhh….

                    The Brad

                    1 Reply Last reply
                    • HoraceH Offline
                      HoraceH Offline
                      Horace
                      wrote on last edited by Horace
                      #413

                      I've heard this statistic about how Canada's per capita domestic product is lower than the lowest American state, Mississippi. I wonder if that's a tricky thing to compare, maybe having to do with health care industry expenses being included or excluded depending on whether it's privatized in a country. I doubt CA standard of living is lower than MS on average.

                      Education is extremely important.

                      RenaudaR 1 Reply Last reply
                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        They’d lose more than that in health and retirement benefits.

                        LuFins DadL Offline
                        LuFins DadL Offline
                        LuFins Dad
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #414

                        @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                        They’d lose more than that in health and retirement benefits.

                        There would be no reason for that. They have the funds and the programs already built. There is no reason that they can’t continue. States can have their own state run healthcare and retirement plans if they choose…

                        The Brad

                        jon-nycJ 1 Reply Last reply
                        • HoraceH Horace

                          I've heard this statistic about how Canada's per capita domestic product is lower than the lowest American state, Mississippi. I wonder if that's a tricky thing to compare, maybe having to do with health care industry expenses being included or excluded depending on whether it's privatized in a country. I doubt CA standard of living is lower than MS on average.

                          RenaudaR Offline
                          RenaudaR Offline
                          Renauda
                          wrote on last edited by Renauda
                          #415

                          I've heard this statistic about how Canada's per capita domestic product is lower than the lowest American state, Mississippi.

                          I’ve also heard stories that some UEssers, we call U’alls (mostly from or residing in former secessionist states), also thInk Canadians live in teepees and igloos.

                          Elbows up!

                          1 Reply Last reply
                          • HoraceH Horace

                            @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                            Billboard Chris has an interesting proposal. Why don’t we just buy Canada? Offer every living Canadian resident $100K if they vote to become part of the US… That would be about $4 Trillion… A lot of money, but think of the resources!

                            You'd only need to buy 51% of the votes. Maybe only pay the women to vote for it. That way, opposition to the plan would be misogynistic.

                            AxtremusA Offline
                            AxtremusA Offline
                            Axtremus
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #416

                            @Horace said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                            Maybe only pay the women to vote for it.

                            And pay them only 83¢ for every dollar you would pay the men to do the same, amirite?

                            HoraceH 1 Reply Last reply
                            • AxtremusA Axtremus

                              @Horace said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                              Maybe only pay the women to vote for it.

                              And pay them only 83¢ for every dollar you would pay the men to do the same, amirite?

                              HoraceH Offline
                              HoraceH Offline
                              Horace
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #417

                              @Axtremus that is customary.

                              Education is extremely important.

                              1 Reply Last reply
                              • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                They’d lose more than that in health and retirement benefits.

                                There would be no reason for that. They have the funds and the programs already built. There is no reason that they can’t continue. States can have their own state run healthcare and retirement plans if they choose…

                                jon-nycJ Online
                                jon-nycJ Online
                                jon-nyc
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #418

                                @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                They’d lose more than that in health and retirement benefits.

                                There would be no reason for that. They have the funds and the programs already built. There is no reason that they can’t continue. States can have their own state run healthcare and retirement plans if they choose…

                                Not really workable with a single payer system. What’s to stop people from moving to Toronto when they need expensive treatment?

                                Only non-witches get due process.

                                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
                                LuFins DadL 1 Reply Last reply
                                • X Offline
                                  X Offline
                                  xenon
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #419

                                  Canadian also pay a huge state (provincial) tax. American federal rates plus provincial rates would likely push effective tax rates for Canadians to above 50%.

                                  1 Reply Last reply
                                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                    @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                    @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                    They’d lose more than that in health and retirement benefits.

                                    There would be no reason for that. They have the funds and the programs already built. There is no reason that they can’t continue. States can have their own state run healthcare and retirement plans if they choose…

                                    Not really workable with a single payer system. What’s to stop people from moving to Toronto when they need expensive treatment?

                                    LuFins DadL Offline
                                    LuFins DadL Offline
                                    LuFins Dad
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #420

                                    @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                    @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                    @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                    They’d lose more than that in health and retirement benefits.

                                    There would be no reason for that. They have the funds and the programs already built. There is no reason that they can’t continue. States can have their own state run healthcare and retirement plans if they choose…

                                    Not really workable with a single payer system. What’s to stop people from moving to Toronto when they need expensive treatment?

                                    It would be simple enough to prorate for those that would try to abuse the system.

                                    The Brad

                                    RenaudaR 1 Reply Last reply
                                    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                      @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                      @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                      @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                      They’d lose more than that in health and retirement benefits.

                                      There would be no reason for that. They have the funds and the programs already built. There is no reason that they can’t continue. States can have their own state run healthcare and retirement plans if they choose…

                                      Not really workable with a single payer system. What’s to stop people from moving to Toronto when they need expensive treatment?

                                      It would be simple enough to prorate for those that would try to abuse the system.

                                      RenaudaR Offline
                                      RenaudaR Offline
                                      Renauda
                                      wrote on last edited by Renauda
                                      #421

                                      @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                      @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                      @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                      @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                      They’d lose more than that in health and retirement benefits.

                                      There would be no reason for that. They have the funds and the programs already built. There is no reason that they can’t continue. States can have their own state run healthcare and retirement plans if they choose…

                                      Not really workable with a single payer system. What’s to stop people from moving to Toronto when they need expensive treatment?

                                      It would be simple enough to prorate for those that would try to abuse the system.

                                      Doesn’t work that way. If Inmove to Toronto tomorrow and fall ill my current provincial health care picks up the tab for the next six months at which time Ontario residency then comes into effect and Ontario insurance takes over. There are sometimes differentials between provinces that need to covered out of pocket. As well as exemptions for some categories of seniors.

                                      If you really want to know the system here works ask bach. He knows it better than any Canadian on this forum.

                                      Elbows up!

                                      LuFins DadL 1 Reply Last reply
                                      • RenaudaR Renauda

                                        @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                        @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                        @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                        @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                        They’d lose more than that in health and retirement benefits.

                                        There would be no reason for that. They have the funds and the programs already built. There is no reason that they can’t continue. States can have their own state run healthcare and retirement plans if they choose…

                                        Not really workable with a single payer system. What’s to stop people from moving to Toronto when they need expensive treatment?

                                        It would be simple enough to prorate for those that would try to abuse the system.

                                        Doesn’t work that way. If Inmove to Toronto tomorrow and fall ill my current provincial health care picks up the tab for the next six months at which time Ontario residency then comes into effect and Ontario insurance takes over. There are sometimes differentials between provinces that need to covered out of pocket. As well as exemptions for some categories of seniors.

                                        If you really want to know the system here works ask bach. He knows it better than any Canadian on this forum.

                                        LuFins DadL Offline
                                        LuFins DadL Offline
                                        LuFins Dad
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #422

                                        @Renauda said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                        @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                        @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                        @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                        @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                        They’d lose more than that in health and retirement benefits.

                                        There would be no reason for that. They have the funds and the programs already built. There is no reason that they can’t continue. States can have their own state run healthcare and retirement plans if they choose…

                                        Not really workable with a single payer system. What’s to stop people from moving to Toronto when they need expensive treatment?

                                        It would be simple enough to prorate for those that would try to abuse the system.

                                        Doesn’t work that way. If Inmove to Toronto tomorrow and fall ill my current provincial health care picks up the tab for the next six months at which time Ontario residency then comes into effect and Ontario insurance takes over. There are sometimes differentials between provinces that need to covered out of pocket. As well as exemptions for some categories of seniors.

                                        If you really want to know the system here works ask bach. He knows it better than any Canadian on this forum.

                                        That’s still essentially irrelevant. The individual Canadian States could easily allow reciprocity within their individual state health systems while excluding states that do not have single payer. If a resident would move from one of the original 50 states, they would be required to maintain COBRA or independent health insurance until a predetermined amount of time established by your province/states. Now, the pain would be if you moved to another state that didn’t have Single Payer and you then had to acquire insurance…

                                        The interesting thing to me would be to see How many new states would introduce Single Payer systems. I’ve always wondered what has prevented a large liberal state like California from introducing their own Single Payer system.

                                        The other interesting thing to see would be migration. Would the new states see a large influx of new residents?

                                        The Brad

                                        RenaudaR 1 Reply Last reply
                                        • LuFins DadL Offline
                                          LuFins DadL Offline
                                          LuFins Dad
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #423

                                          But now that you brought it up, what are the rates like for the uncovered? If I was visiting Alberta, and had a sudden acute appendicitis, I’m sure I would get a surgery and care, but how exactly would that work? My insurance but out of network? Or would I be completely on the hook?

                                          The Brad

                                          1 Reply Last reply
                                          Reply
                                          • Reply as topic
                                          Log in to reply
                                          • Oldest to Newest
                                          • Newest to Oldest
                                          • Most Votes


                                          • Login

                                          • Don't have an account? Register

                                          • Login or register to search.
                                          • First post
                                            Last post
                                          0
                                          • Categories
                                          • Recent
                                          • Tags
                                          • Popular
                                          • Users
                                          • Groups