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  • RenaudaR Offline
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    Renauda
    wrote on last edited by Renauda
    #403

    Maybe. Quebec might even open their breakers too.

    Nothing is off the table.

    Elbows up!

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    • LuFins DadL Offline
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      LuFins Dad
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      #404

      Billboard Chris has an interesting proposal. Why don’t we just buy Canada? Offer every living Canadian resident $100K if they vote to become part of the US… That would be about $4 Trillion… A lot of money, but think of the resources!

      The Brad

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        LuFins Dad
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        #405

        And yes, I know it doesn’t work that way… Just found it amusing…

        The Brad

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        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

          Billboard Chris has an interesting proposal. Why don’t we just buy Canada? Offer every living Canadian resident $100K if they vote to become part of the US… That would be about $4 Trillion… A lot of money, but think of the resources!

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          Horace
          wrote on last edited by Horace
          #406

          @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

          Billboard Chris has an interesting proposal. Why don’t we just buy Canada? Offer every living Canadian resident $100K if they vote to become part of the US… That would be about $4 Trillion… A lot of money, but think of the resources!

          You'd only need to buy 51% of the votes. Maybe only pay the women to vote for it. That way, opposition to the plan would be misogynistic.

          Education is extremely important.

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          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

            And yes, I know it doesn’t work that way… Just found it amusing…

            RenaudaR Offline
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            Renauda
            wrote on last edited by Renauda
            #407

            @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

            And yes, I know it doesn’t work that way… Just found it amusing…

            We however, are not amused.

            Not in the least.

            Elbows up!

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            • HoraceH Horace

              @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

              Billboard Chris has an interesting proposal. Why don’t we just buy Canada? Offer every living Canadian resident $100K if they vote to become part of the US… That would be about $4 Trillion… A lot of money, but think of the resources!

              You'd only need to buy 51% of the votes. Maybe only pay the women to vote for it. That way, opposition to the plan would be misogynistic.

              LuFins DadL Offline
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              LuFins Dad
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              #408

              @Horace said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

              @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

              Billboard Chris has an interesting proposal. Why don’t we just buy Canada? Offer every living Canadian resident $100K if they vote to become part of the US… That would be about $4 Trillion… A lot of money, but think of the resources!

              You'd only need to buy 51% of the votes. Maybe only pay the women to vote for it. That way, opposition to the plan would be misogynistic.

              Well, technically only 50% of the population is registered to vote, so you really only need like 26% of the population, which brings the cost down to $1 Trillion. But to assure you win the vote, you really need to go every man woman and child’s. I might say no if I am getting $100K, but $400K for my family?

              The Brad

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              • RenaudaR Offline
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                Renauda
                wrote on last edited by
                #409

                Never.

                Elbows up!

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                • LuFins DadL Offline
                  LuFins DadL Offline
                  LuFins Dad
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                  #410

                  Okay, we’ll put you in the no column. 5,999,999 to go..

                  The Brad

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                  • jon-nycJ Online
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                    jon-nyc
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                    #411

                    They’d lose more than that in health and retirement benefits.

                    You were warned.

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                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                      They’d lose more than that in health and retirement benefits.

                      LuFins DadL Offline
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                      LuFins Dad
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #412

                      @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                      They’d lose more than that in health and retirement benefits.

                      Shhhhhhh….

                      The Brad

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                        #413

                        I've heard this statistic about how Canada's per capita domestic product is lower than the lowest American state, Mississippi. I wonder if that's a tricky thing to compare, maybe having to do with health care industry expenses being included or excluded depending on whether it's privatized in a country. I doubt CA standard of living is lower than MS on average.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                          They’d lose more than that in health and retirement benefits.

                          LuFins DadL Offline
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                          LuFins Dad
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                          #414

                          @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                          They’d lose more than that in health and retirement benefits.

                          There would be no reason for that. They have the funds and the programs already built. There is no reason that they can’t continue. States can have their own state run healthcare and retirement plans if they choose…

                          The Brad

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                          • HoraceH Horace

                            I've heard this statistic about how Canada's per capita domestic product is lower than the lowest American state, Mississippi. I wonder if that's a tricky thing to compare, maybe having to do with health care industry expenses being included or excluded depending on whether it's privatized in a country. I doubt CA standard of living is lower than MS on average.

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                            Renauda
                            wrote on last edited by Renauda
                            #415

                            I've heard this statistic about how Canada's per capita domestic product is lower than the lowest American state, Mississippi.

                            I’ve also heard stories that some UEssers, we call U’alls (mostly from or residing in former secessionist states), also thInk Canadians live in teepees and igloos.

                            Elbows up!

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                            • HoraceH Horace

                              @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                              Billboard Chris has an interesting proposal. Why don’t we just buy Canada? Offer every living Canadian resident $100K if they vote to become part of the US… That would be about $4 Trillion… A lot of money, but think of the resources!

                              You'd only need to buy 51% of the votes. Maybe only pay the women to vote for it. That way, opposition to the plan would be misogynistic.

                              AxtremusA Away
                              AxtremusA Away
                              Axtremus
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                              #416

                              @Horace said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                              Maybe only pay the women to vote for it.

                              And pay them only 83¢ for every dollar you would pay the men to do the same, amirite?

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                              • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                @Horace said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                Maybe only pay the women to vote for it.

                                And pay them only 83¢ for every dollar you would pay the men to do the same, amirite?

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                                Horace
                                wrote on last edited by
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                                @Axtremus that is customary.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                  @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                  They’d lose more than that in health and retirement benefits.

                                  There would be no reason for that. They have the funds and the programs already built. There is no reason that they can’t continue. States can have their own state run healthcare and retirement plans if they choose…

                                  jon-nycJ Online
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                                  jon-nyc
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #418

                                  @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                  @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                  They’d lose more than that in health and retirement benefits.

                                  There would be no reason for that. They have the funds and the programs already built. There is no reason that they can’t continue. States can have their own state run healthcare and retirement plans if they choose…

                                  Not really workable with a single payer system. What’s to stop people from moving to Toronto when they need expensive treatment?

                                  You were warned.

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                                    #419

                                    Canadian also pay a huge state (provincial) tax. American federal rates plus provincial rates would likely push effective tax rates for Canadians to above 50%.

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                                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                      @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                      @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                      They’d lose more than that in health and retirement benefits.

                                      There would be no reason for that. They have the funds and the programs already built. There is no reason that they can’t continue. States can have their own state run healthcare and retirement plans if they choose…

                                      Not really workable with a single payer system. What’s to stop people from moving to Toronto when they need expensive treatment?

                                      LuFins DadL Offline
                                      LuFins DadL Offline
                                      LuFins Dad
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #420

                                      @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                      @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                      @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                      They’d lose more than that in health and retirement benefits.

                                      There would be no reason for that. They have the funds and the programs already built. There is no reason that they can’t continue. States can have their own state run healthcare and retirement plans if they choose…

                                      Not really workable with a single payer system. What’s to stop people from moving to Toronto when they need expensive treatment?

                                      It would be simple enough to prorate for those that would try to abuse the system.

                                      The Brad

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                                      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                        @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                        @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                        @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                        They’d lose more than that in health and retirement benefits.

                                        There would be no reason for that. They have the funds and the programs already built. There is no reason that they can’t continue. States can have their own state run healthcare and retirement plans if they choose…

                                        Not really workable with a single payer system. What’s to stop people from moving to Toronto when they need expensive treatment?

                                        It would be simple enough to prorate for those that would try to abuse the system.

                                        RenaudaR Offline
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                                        Renauda
                                        wrote on last edited by Renauda
                                        #421

                                        @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                        @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                        @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                        @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                        They’d lose more than that in health and retirement benefits.

                                        There would be no reason for that. They have the funds and the programs already built. There is no reason that they can’t continue. States can have their own state run healthcare and retirement plans if they choose…

                                        Not really workable with a single payer system. What’s to stop people from moving to Toronto when they need expensive treatment?

                                        It would be simple enough to prorate for those that would try to abuse the system.

                                        Doesn’t work that way. If Inmove to Toronto tomorrow and fall ill my current provincial health care picks up the tab for the next six months at which time Ontario residency then comes into effect and Ontario insurance takes over. There are sometimes differentials between provinces that need to covered out of pocket. As well as exemptions for some categories of seniors.

                                        If you really want to know the system here works ask bach. He knows it better than any Canadian on this forum.

                                        Elbows up!

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                                        • RenaudaR Renauda

                                          @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                          @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                          @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                          @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                          They’d lose more than that in health and retirement benefits.

                                          There would be no reason for that. They have the funds and the programs already built. There is no reason that they can’t continue. States can have their own state run healthcare and retirement plans if they choose…

                                          Not really workable with a single payer system. What’s to stop people from moving to Toronto when they need expensive treatment?

                                          It would be simple enough to prorate for those that would try to abuse the system.

                                          Doesn’t work that way. If Inmove to Toronto tomorrow and fall ill my current provincial health care picks up the tab for the next six months at which time Ontario residency then comes into effect and Ontario insurance takes over. There are sometimes differentials between provinces that need to covered out of pocket. As well as exemptions for some categories of seniors.

                                          If you really want to know the system here works ask bach. He knows it better than any Canadian on this forum.

                                          LuFins DadL Offline
                                          LuFins DadL Offline
                                          LuFins Dad
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                                          @Renauda said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                          @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                          @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                          @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                          @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                          They’d lose more than that in health and retirement benefits.

                                          There would be no reason for that. They have the funds and the programs already built. There is no reason that they can’t continue. States can have their own state run healthcare and retirement plans if they choose…

                                          Not really workable with a single payer system. What’s to stop people from moving to Toronto when they need expensive treatment?

                                          It would be simple enough to prorate for those that would try to abuse the system.

                                          Doesn’t work that way. If Inmove to Toronto tomorrow and fall ill my current provincial health care picks up the tab for the next six months at which time Ontario residency then comes into effect and Ontario insurance takes over. There are sometimes differentials between provinces that need to covered out of pocket. As well as exemptions for some categories of seniors.

                                          If you really want to know the system here works ask bach. He knows it better than any Canadian on this forum.

                                          That’s still essentially irrelevant. The individual Canadian States could easily allow reciprocity within their individual state health systems while excluding states that do not have single payer. If a resident would move from one of the original 50 states, they would be required to maintain COBRA or independent health insurance until a predetermined amount of time established by your province/states. Now, the pain would be if you moved to another state that didn’t have Single Payer and you then had to acquire insurance…

                                          The interesting thing to me would be to see How many new states would introduce Single Payer systems. I’ve always wondered what has prevented a large liberal state like California from introducing their own Single Payer system.

                                          The other interesting thing to see would be migration. Would the new states see a large influx of new residents?

                                          The Brad

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