Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread
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Billboard Chris has an interesting proposal. Why don’t we just buy Canada? Offer every living Canadian resident $100K if they vote to become part of the US… That would be about $4 Trillion… A lot of money, but think of the resources!
wrote on 16 Mar 2025, 20:08 last edited by Horace@LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
Billboard Chris has an interesting proposal. Why don’t we just buy Canada? Offer every living Canadian resident $100K if they vote to become part of the US… That would be about $4 Trillion… A lot of money, but think of the resources!
You'd only need to buy 51% of the votes. Maybe only pay the women to vote for it. That way, opposition to the plan would be misogynistic.
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And yes, I know it doesn’t work that way… Just found it amusing…
wrote on 16 Mar 2025, 20:40 last edited by Renauda@LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
And yes, I know it doesn’t work that way… Just found it amusing…
We however, are not amused.
Not in the least.
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@LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
Billboard Chris has an interesting proposal. Why don’t we just buy Canada? Offer every living Canadian resident $100K if they vote to become part of the US… That would be about $4 Trillion… A lot of money, but think of the resources!
You'd only need to buy 51% of the votes. Maybe only pay the women to vote for it. That way, opposition to the plan would be misogynistic.
wrote on 16 Mar 2025, 20:45 last edited by@Horace said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
@LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
Billboard Chris has an interesting proposal. Why don’t we just buy Canada? Offer every living Canadian resident $100K if they vote to become part of the US… That would be about $4 Trillion… A lot of money, but think of the resources!
You'd only need to buy 51% of the votes. Maybe only pay the women to vote for it. That way, opposition to the plan would be misogynistic.
Well, technically only 50% of the population is registered to vote, so you really only need like 26% of the population, which brings the cost down to $1 Trillion. But to assure you win the vote, you really need to go every man woman and child’s. I might say no if I am getting $100K, but $400K for my family?
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wrote on 16 Mar 2025, 20:51 last edited by
Never.
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wrote on 16 Mar 2025, 20:56 last edited by
Okay, we’ll put you in the no column. 5,999,999 to go..
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wrote on 16 Mar 2025, 21:00 last edited by
They’d lose more than that in health and retirement benefits.
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wrote on 16 Mar 2025, 21:02 last edited by
@jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
They’d lose more than that in health and retirement benefits.
Shhhhhhh….
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wrote on 16 Mar 2025, 21:10 last edited by Horace
I've heard this statistic about how Canada's per capita domestic product is lower than the lowest American state, Mississippi. I wonder if that's a tricky thing to compare, maybe having to do with health care industry expenses being included or excluded depending on whether it's privatized in a country. I doubt CA standard of living is lower than MS on average.
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wrote on 16 Mar 2025, 21:16 last edited by
@jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
They’d lose more than that in health and retirement benefits.
There would be no reason for that. They have the funds and the programs already built. There is no reason that they can’t continue. States can have their own state run healthcare and retirement plans if they choose…
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I've heard this statistic about how Canada's per capita domestic product is lower than the lowest American state, Mississippi. I wonder if that's a tricky thing to compare, maybe having to do with health care industry expenses being included or excluded depending on whether it's privatized in a country. I doubt CA standard of living is lower than MS on average.
wrote on 16 Mar 2025, 21:18 last edited by RenaudaI've heard this statistic about how Canada's per capita domestic product is lower than the lowest American state, Mississippi.
I’ve also heard stories that some UEssers, we call U’alls (mostly from or residing in former secessionist states), also thInk Canadians live in teepees and igloos.
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@LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
Billboard Chris has an interesting proposal. Why don’t we just buy Canada? Offer every living Canadian resident $100K if they vote to become part of the US… That would be about $4 Trillion… A lot of money, but think of the resources!
You'd only need to buy 51% of the votes. Maybe only pay the women to vote for it. That way, opposition to the plan would be misogynistic.
wrote on 16 Mar 2025, 21:23 last edited by@Horace said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
Maybe only pay the women to vote for it.
And pay them only 83¢ for every dollar you would pay the men to do the same, amirite?
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@Horace said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
Maybe only pay the women to vote for it.
And pay them only 83¢ for every dollar you would pay the men to do the same, amirite?
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@jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
They’d lose more than that in health and retirement benefits.
There would be no reason for that. They have the funds and the programs already built. There is no reason that they can’t continue. States can have their own state run healthcare and retirement plans if they choose…
wrote on 17 Mar 2025, 00:41 last edited by@LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
@jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
They’d lose more than that in health and retirement benefits.
There would be no reason for that. They have the funds and the programs already built. There is no reason that they can’t continue. States can have their own state run healthcare and retirement plans if they choose…
Not really workable with a single payer system. What’s to stop people from moving to Toronto when they need expensive treatment?
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wrote on 17 Mar 2025, 00:49 last edited by
Canadian also pay a huge state (provincial) tax. American federal rates plus provincial rates would likely push effective tax rates for Canadians to above 50%.
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@LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
@jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
They’d lose more than that in health and retirement benefits.
There would be no reason for that. They have the funds and the programs already built. There is no reason that they can’t continue. States can have their own state run healthcare and retirement plans if they choose…
Not really workable with a single payer system. What’s to stop people from moving to Toronto when they need expensive treatment?
wrote on 17 Mar 2025, 01:06 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
@LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
@jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
They’d lose more than that in health and retirement benefits.
There would be no reason for that. They have the funds and the programs already built. There is no reason that they can’t continue. States can have their own state run healthcare and retirement plans if they choose…
Not really workable with a single payer system. What’s to stop people from moving to Toronto when they need expensive treatment?
It would be simple enough to prorate for those that would try to abuse the system.
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@jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
@LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
@jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
They’d lose more than that in health and retirement benefits.
There would be no reason for that. They have the funds and the programs already built. There is no reason that they can’t continue. States can have their own state run healthcare and retirement plans if they choose…
Not really workable with a single payer system. What’s to stop people from moving to Toronto when they need expensive treatment?
It would be simple enough to prorate for those that would try to abuse the system.
wrote on 17 Mar 2025, 01:16 last edited by Renauda@LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
@jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
@LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
@jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
They’d lose more than that in health and retirement benefits.
There would be no reason for that. They have the funds and the programs already built. There is no reason that they can’t continue. States can have their own state run healthcare and retirement plans if they choose…
Not really workable with a single payer system. What’s to stop people from moving to Toronto when they need expensive treatment?
It would be simple enough to prorate for those that would try to abuse the system.
Doesn’t work that way. If Inmove to Toronto tomorrow and fall ill my current provincial health care picks up the tab for the next six months at which time Ontario residency then comes into effect and Ontario insurance takes over. There are sometimes differentials between provinces that need to covered out of pocket. As well as exemptions for some categories of seniors.
If you really want to know the system here works ask bach. He knows it better than any Canadian on this forum.
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@LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
@jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
@LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
@jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
They’d lose more than that in health and retirement benefits.
There would be no reason for that. They have the funds and the programs already built. There is no reason that they can’t continue. States can have their own state run healthcare and retirement plans if they choose…
Not really workable with a single payer system. What’s to stop people from moving to Toronto when they need expensive treatment?
It would be simple enough to prorate for those that would try to abuse the system.
Doesn’t work that way. If Inmove to Toronto tomorrow and fall ill my current provincial health care picks up the tab for the next six months at which time Ontario residency then comes into effect and Ontario insurance takes over. There are sometimes differentials between provinces that need to covered out of pocket. As well as exemptions for some categories of seniors.
If you really want to know the system here works ask bach. He knows it better than any Canadian on this forum.
wrote on 17 Mar 2025, 01:36 last edited by@Renauda said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
@LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
@jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
@LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
@jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
They’d lose more than that in health and retirement benefits.
There would be no reason for that. They have the funds and the programs already built. There is no reason that they can’t continue. States can have their own state run healthcare and retirement plans if they choose…
Not really workable with a single payer system. What’s to stop people from moving to Toronto when they need expensive treatment?
It would be simple enough to prorate for those that would try to abuse the system.
Doesn’t work that way. If Inmove to Toronto tomorrow and fall ill my current provincial health care picks up the tab for the next six months at which time Ontario residency then comes into effect and Ontario insurance takes over. There are sometimes differentials between provinces that need to covered out of pocket. As well as exemptions for some categories of seniors.
If you really want to know the system here works ask bach. He knows it better than any Canadian on this forum.
That’s still essentially irrelevant. The individual Canadian States could easily allow reciprocity within their individual state health systems while excluding states that do not have single payer. If a resident would move from one of the original 50 states, they would be required to maintain COBRA or independent health insurance until a predetermined amount of time established by your province/states. Now, the pain would be if you moved to another state that didn’t have Single Payer and you then had to acquire insurance…
The interesting thing to me would be to see How many new states would introduce Single Payer systems. I’ve always wondered what has prevented a large liberal state like California from introducing their own Single Payer system.
The other interesting thing to see would be migration. Would the new states see a large influx of new residents?
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wrote on 17 Mar 2025, 01:40 last edited by
But now that you brought it up, what are the rates like for the uncovered? If I was visiting Alberta, and had a sudden acute appendicitis, I’m sure I would get a surgery and care, but how exactly would that work? My insurance but out of network? Or would I be completely on the hook?
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@Renauda said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
@LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
@jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
@LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
@jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
They’d lose more than that in health and retirement benefits.
There would be no reason for that. They have the funds and the programs already built. There is no reason that they can’t continue. States can have their own state run healthcare and retirement plans if they choose…
Not really workable with a single payer system. What’s to stop people from moving to Toronto when they need expensive treatment?
It would be simple enough to prorate for those that would try to abuse the system.
Doesn’t work that way. If Inmove to Toronto tomorrow and fall ill my current provincial health care picks up the tab for the next six months at which time Ontario residency then comes into effect and Ontario insurance takes over. There are sometimes differentials between provinces that need to covered out of pocket. As well as exemptions for some categories of seniors.
If you really want to know the system here works ask bach. He knows it better than any Canadian on this forum.
That’s still essentially irrelevant. The individual Canadian States could easily allow reciprocity within their individual state health systems while excluding states that do not have single payer. If a resident would move from one of the original 50 states, they would be required to maintain COBRA or independent health insurance until a predetermined amount of time established by your province/states. Now, the pain would be if you moved to another state that didn’t have Single Payer and you then had to acquire insurance…
The interesting thing to me would be to see How many new states would introduce Single Payer systems. I’ve always wondered what has prevented a large liberal state like California from introducing their own Single Payer system.
The other interesting thing to see would be migration. Would the new states see a large influx of new residents?
wrote on 17 Mar 2025, 01:47 last edited by RenaudaSorry but I am not m going any further down this road. You have been corrected and the remainder, as you say, is irrelevant.
No part of what you republocrats are discussing is going to happen. Canada will remain sovereign and under Westminster Parliamentary governance.
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wrote on 17 Mar 2025, 16:43 last edited by
There seems to be some sentiment against making Canada the 51st.
It might be easier to just take a few good provinces, and then let the others just catch up over time.
