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    89th
    wrote on 14 Mar 2025, 14:08 last edited by
    #397

    Yeah regarding poverty and real wages, not sure where that claim comes from @Jolly do you have numbers to back up that claim?

    Poverty reductions by President:

    • Clinton: Reduced by 3.8%
    • Obama: Reduced by 1.6%
    • Trump: Reduced by 0.8%

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    Real-wage grow by President, the green line is the 1st quartile of wage earners:

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    • T taiwan_girl
      14 Mar 2025, 00:13

      Anybody here know anybody who has "buyer remorse" from the election?

      I am guess it is still too early for that to happen. Maybe best to come back to this question end June.

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      Horace
      wrote on 14 Mar 2025, 14:19 last edited by
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      @taiwan_girl said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

      Anybody here know anybody who has "buyer remorse" from the election?

      I am guess it is still too early for that to happen. Maybe best to come back to this question end June.

      The tariff stuff has to calm down. I don't think very many of his voters were expecting the fifth fastest stock market correction in history. The global market and its efficiencies are sort of a big deal, and America's prosperity depends on it. So does America's piggy bank, the stock market.

      Education is extremely important.

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      • H Horace
        14 Mar 2025, 14:19

        @taiwan_girl said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

        Anybody here know anybody who has "buyer remorse" from the election?

        I am guess it is still too early for that to happen. Maybe best to come back to this question end June.

        The tariff stuff has to calm down. I don't think very many of his voters were expecting the fifth fastest stock market correction in history. The global market and its efficiencies are sort of a big deal, and America's prosperity depends on it. So does America's piggy bank, the stock market.

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        Renauda
        wrote on 14 Mar 2025, 14:27 last edited by Renauda
        #399

        @Horace

        The global market and its efficiencies are sort of a big deal, and America's prosperity depends on it. So does America's piggy bank, the stock market.

        I agree.

        I know I’ve said before but….

        You cannot fool the market. In fact you cannot fool the market any more than you can fool the law of gravity. Any politician(s) in past who thought they could, failed. Sometimes with catastrophic consequences. This time round won’t be any different.

        Elbows up!

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        • T taiwan_girl
          14 Mar 2025, 00:13

          Anybody here know anybody who has "buyer remorse" from the election?

          I am guess it is still too early for that to happen. Maybe best to come back to this question end June.

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          Copper
          wrote on 14 Mar 2025, 15:48 last edited by
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          @taiwan_girl said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

          Anybody here know anybody who has "buyer remorse" from the election?

          Pretty much all the democrats, they really blew a great opportunity.

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            Renauda
            wrote on 15 Mar 2025, 21:49 last edited by Renauda
            #401

            Clearer idea about the tariffs, maybe……

            https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trump-global-tariffs-canada-1.7484790

            Elbows up!

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              Axtremus
              wrote on 16 Mar 2025, 00:12 last edited by
              #402

              So ... will Ontario re-impose that 25% surcharge on electricity exported into the USA?

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                Renauda
                wrote on 16 Mar 2025, 00:29 last edited by Renauda
                #403

                Maybe. Quebec might even open their breakers too.

                Nothing is off the table.

                Elbows up!

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                  LuFins Dad
                  wrote on 16 Mar 2025, 19:57 last edited by
                  #404

                  Billboard Chris has an interesting proposal. Why don’t we just buy Canada? Offer every living Canadian resident $100K if they vote to become part of the US… That would be about $4 Trillion… A lot of money, but think of the resources!

                  The Brad

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                    LuFins Dad
                    wrote on 16 Mar 2025, 19:59 last edited by
                    #405

                    And yes, I know it doesn’t work that way… Just found it amusing…

                    The Brad

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                    • L LuFins Dad
                      16 Mar 2025, 19:57

                      Billboard Chris has an interesting proposal. Why don’t we just buy Canada? Offer every living Canadian resident $100K if they vote to become part of the US… That would be about $4 Trillion… A lot of money, but think of the resources!

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                      Horace
                      wrote on 16 Mar 2025, 20:08 last edited by Horace
                      #406

                      @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                      Billboard Chris has an interesting proposal. Why don’t we just buy Canada? Offer every living Canadian resident $100K if they vote to become part of the US… That would be about $4 Trillion… A lot of money, but think of the resources!

                      You'd only need to buy 51% of the votes. Maybe only pay the women to vote for it. That way, opposition to the plan would be misogynistic.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                      • L LuFins Dad
                        16 Mar 2025, 19:59

                        And yes, I know it doesn’t work that way… Just found it amusing…

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                        Renauda
                        wrote on 16 Mar 2025, 20:40 last edited by Renauda
                        #407

                        @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                        And yes, I know it doesn’t work that way… Just found it amusing…

                        We however, are not amused.

                        Not in the least.

                        Elbows up!

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                        • H Horace
                          16 Mar 2025, 20:08

                          @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                          Billboard Chris has an interesting proposal. Why don’t we just buy Canada? Offer every living Canadian resident $100K if they vote to become part of the US… That would be about $4 Trillion… A lot of money, but think of the resources!

                          You'd only need to buy 51% of the votes. Maybe only pay the women to vote for it. That way, opposition to the plan would be misogynistic.

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                          LuFins Dad
                          wrote on 16 Mar 2025, 20:45 last edited by
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                          @Horace said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                          @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                          Billboard Chris has an interesting proposal. Why don’t we just buy Canada? Offer every living Canadian resident $100K if they vote to become part of the US… That would be about $4 Trillion… A lot of money, but think of the resources!

                          You'd only need to buy 51% of the votes. Maybe only pay the women to vote for it. That way, opposition to the plan would be misogynistic.

                          Well, technically only 50% of the population is registered to vote, so you really only need like 26% of the population, which brings the cost down to $1 Trillion. But to assure you win the vote, you really need to go every man woman and child’s. I might say no if I am getting $100K, but $400K for my family?

                          The Brad

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                            Renauda
                            wrote on 16 Mar 2025, 20:51 last edited by
                            #409

                            Never.

                            Elbows up!

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                              LuFins Dad
                              wrote on 16 Mar 2025, 20:56 last edited by
                              #410

                              Okay, we’ll put you in the no column. 5,999,999 to go..

                              The Brad

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                                jon-nyc
                                wrote on 16 Mar 2025, 21:00 last edited by
                                #411

                                They’d lose more than that in health and retirement benefits.

                                Only non-witches get due process.

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                                • J jon-nyc
                                  16 Mar 2025, 21:00

                                  They’d lose more than that in health and retirement benefits.

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                                  LuFins Dad
                                  wrote on 16 Mar 2025, 21:02 last edited by
                                  #412

                                  @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                  They’d lose more than that in health and retirement benefits.

                                  Shhhhhhh….

                                  The Brad

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                                    Horace
                                    wrote on 16 Mar 2025, 21:10 last edited by Horace
                                    #413

                                    I've heard this statistic about how Canada's per capita domestic product is lower than the lowest American state, Mississippi. I wonder if that's a tricky thing to compare, maybe having to do with health care industry expenses being included or excluded depending on whether it's privatized in a country. I doubt CA standard of living is lower than MS on average.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                    • J jon-nyc
                                      16 Mar 2025, 21:00

                                      They’d lose more than that in health and retirement benefits.

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                                      LuFins Dad
                                      wrote on 16 Mar 2025, 21:16 last edited by
                                      #414

                                      @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                      They’d lose more than that in health and retirement benefits.

                                      There would be no reason for that. They have the funds and the programs already built. There is no reason that they can’t continue. States can have their own state run healthcare and retirement plans if they choose…

                                      The Brad

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                                      • H Horace
                                        16 Mar 2025, 21:10

                                        I've heard this statistic about how Canada's per capita domestic product is lower than the lowest American state, Mississippi. I wonder if that's a tricky thing to compare, maybe having to do with health care industry expenses being included or excluded depending on whether it's privatized in a country. I doubt CA standard of living is lower than MS on average.

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                                        Renauda
                                        wrote on 16 Mar 2025, 21:18 last edited by Renauda
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                                        I've heard this statistic about how Canada's per capita domestic product is lower than the lowest American state, Mississippi.

                                        I’ve also heard stories that some UEssers, we call U’alls (mostly from or residing in former secessionist states), also thInk Canadians live in teepees and igloos.

                                        Elbows up!

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                                        • H Horace
                                          16 Mar 2025, 20:08

                                          @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                          Billboard Chris has an interesting proposal. Why don’t we just buy Canada? Offer every living Canadian resident $100K if they vote to become part of the US… That would be about $4 Trillion… A lot of money, but think of the resources!

                                          You'd only need to buy 51% of the votes. Maybe only pay the women to vote for it. That way, opposition to the plan would be misogynistic.

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                                          Axtremus
                                          wrote on 16 Mar 2025, 21:23 last edited by
                                          #416

                                          @Horace said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                          Maybe only pay the women to vote for it.

                                          And pay them only 83¢ for every dollar you would pay the men to do the same, amirite?

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