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  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

    @Renauda said in Trumpenomics:

    I think trade barriers are also going to be thrown into the mix.

    Like what? Name some.

    You start…

    I’m sure we can make up some of the same ones they will pretend are real. VATs, over production and subsidization of their domestic manufacturers that are competitive with primary American exports. Low wage standards. The one that keeps getting talked about by some of the more respectable officials that I honestly don’t know much about and would appreciate more insight on is currency manipulation. That is something I would be curious to hear about.

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    Renauda
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    @LuFins-Dad

    The one that keeps getting talked about by some of the more respectable officials that I honestly don’t know much about and would appreciate more insight on is currency manipulation. That is something I would be curious to hear about.

    As would I. I think it only refers to countries like China, Russia, India and a few others that circulate what is essentially inconvertible currencies. Openly traded currencies like the dollar, Euro and British Pound are governed by their central banks and cannot be manipulated by their host states.

    Elbows up!

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      Horace
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      #749

      Trump's non-tariff trade barriers, posted today:


      NON-TARIFF CHEATING:

      1. Currency Manipulation
      2. VATs which act as tariffs and export subsidies
      3. Dumping Below Cost
      4. Export Subsidies and Other Govt. Subsidies
      5. Protective Agricultural Standards (e.g., no genetically engineered corn in EU)
      6. Protective Technical Standards (Japan’s bowling ball test)
      7. Counterfeiting, Piracy, and IP Theft (Over $1 trillion a year)
      8. Transshipping to EVADE Tariffs!!!

      Education is extremely important.

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      • RenaudaR Offline
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        Renauda
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        #750

        😂

        Elbows up!

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        • LuFins DadL Offline
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          LuFins Dad
          wrote on last edited by
          #751

          #7 is the only legitimate one listed.

          The Brad

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            Renauda
            wrote on last edited by
            #752

            Actually #3 is legit as well. No country finds dumping acceptable. But it can be dealt with easily through the WTO process.

            At a glance the rest are nonsense. Especially subsidies to the agriculture sector. The US is one of the top subsidisers of agri products..

            Elbows up!

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            • RenaudaR Renauda

              Actually #3 is legit as well. No country finds dumping acceptable. But it can be dealt with easily through the WTO process.

              At a glance the rest are nonsense. Especially subsidies to the agriculture sector. The US is one of the top subsidisers of agri products..

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              LuFins Dad
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              #753

              @Renauda said in Trumpenomics:

              Actually #3 is legit as well. No country finds dumping acceptable. But it can be dealt with easily through the WTO process.

              At a glance the rest are nonsense. Especially subsidies to the agriculture sector. The US is one of the top subsidisers of agri products..

              Fair enough.

              The Brad

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                https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/boeing-jet-returns-us-china-victim-trumps-tariff-war-2025-04-20/

                A completed, air-worthy Boeing 737 MAX that was already in China got returned to the USA -- because Xiamen Airlines, the supposed recipient of that airplane, cannot afford the tariffs and thus cannot take delivery.

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                  jon-nyc
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                  #755

                  Gold at an all time high.

                  "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                  -Cormac McCarthy

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                    jon-nyc
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                    #756

                    Stocks down. Dollar down. Treasuries down.

                    It’s like the markets are beginning to realize that the real problem isn’t just the tariffs, but having a crazy man with far too much power over the economy.

                    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                    -Cormac McCarthy

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                      jon-nyc
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                      #757

                      Just wait until he figures out how to fire Powell and put Laura Loomer in charge of the Fed.

                      IMG_4635.jpeg

                      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                      -Cormac McCarthy

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                        #758

                        The semi-coherent ranting is certainly going to do wonders for market confidence.

                        I was only joking

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                          Horace
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                          #759

                          Trump is panicking that the rest of the world isn't cooperating with his insane economic gambits. From Powell to China, everybody is letting him dig his own grave.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                            Renauda
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                            #760

                            Sooner or later all autocrats succumb to pathological paranoia. In Trump’s case it is sooner rather than later.

                            Elbows up!

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                              Horace
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #761

                              Rebuilding wealth, by intentionally destroying trade relationships which were creating wealth for every American with any economic skin in the game.


                              @realDonaldTrump

                              Since our announcement of LIBERATION DAY, many World Leaders and Business Executives have come to me asking for relief from Tariffs. It’s good to see that the World knows we are serious, because WE ARE! They must right the wrongs of decades of abuse, but it won’t be easy for them. We must rebuild the Wealth of our Great Country, and create true RECIPROCITY. But for those who want the easiest path: Come to America, and build in America!

                              Education is extremely important.

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                                It's like a bully on the playground saying "many kids have come up to me asking for relief from my wedgies!"

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                                  jon-nyc
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                                  I think this would be funnier if I knew the movie reference.

                                  "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                  -Cormac McCarthy

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                                    Horace
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                                    Always Sunny in Philadephia, TV show. I bought the first few seasons. It's very funny.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                      jon-nyc
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                                      From wsj:

                                      IMG_4640.jpeg

                                      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                      -Cormac McCarthy

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                                        Axtremus
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                                        Who are those two green arrows?

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                                          Another bloody day today for the nation’s retirement accounts.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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