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  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

    This is unsurprising.

    US trade delegation asks the Japanese delegation what they were ready to offer. Japanese delegation says ‘well what do you guys want?’ They couldn’t answer.

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    Renauda
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    @jon-nyc

    US trade delegation asks the Japanese delegation what they were ready to offer. Japanese delegation says ‘well what do you guys want?’ They couldn’t answer.

    Well the US g’ovt could hardly demand that tightening the border to address illegal immigrants or fentanyl trafficking from Japan. They blew both those lame excuses with Canada.

    Maybe Japan as the 52nd state or demand reparations for the war in the Pacific?

    Elbows up!

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    • MikM Away
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      SMH. Normally when one opens a negotiation, if you can call this a negotiation, one has some idea what they want. This just seems to be the fallout from universal tariff declarations. “We’ll just see what they offer”. More laziness.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • RenaudaR Renauda

        I think trade barriers are also going to be thrown into the mix.

        Like what? Name some.

        You start…

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        @Renauda said in Trumpenomics:

        I think trade barriers are also going to be thrown into the mix.

        Like what? Name some.

        You start…

        I’m sure we can make up some of the same ones they will pretend are real. VATs, over production and subsidization of their domestic manufacturers that are competitive with primary American exports. Low wage standards. The one that keeps getting talked about by some of the more respectable officials that I honestly don’t know much about and would appreciate more insight on is currency manipulation. That is something I would be curious to hear about.

        The Brad

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        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

          @Renauda said in Trumpenomics:

          I think trade barriers are also going to be thrown into the mix.

          Like what? Name some.

          You start…

          I’m sure we can make up some of the same ones they will pretend are real. VATs, over production and subsidization of their domestic manufacturers that are competitive with primary American exports. Low wage standards. The one that keeps getting talked about by some of the more respectable officials that I honestly don’t know much about and would appreciate more insight on is currency manipulation. That is something I would be curious to hear about.

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          @LuFins-Dad

          The one that keeps getting talked about by some of the more respectable officials that I honestly don’t know much about and would appreciate more insight on is currency manipulation. That is something I would be curious to hear about.

          As would I. I think it only refers to countries like China, Russia, India and a few others that circulate what is essentially inconvertible currencies. Openly traded currencies like the dollar, Euro and British Pound are governed by their central banks and cannot be manipulated by their host states.

          Elbows up!

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            #749

            Trump's non-tariff trade barriers, posted today:


            NON-TARIFF CHEATING:

            1. Currency Manipulation
            2. VATs which act as tariffs and export subsidies
            3. Dumping Below Cost
            4. Export Subsidies and Other Govt. Subsidies
            5. Protective Agricultural Standards (e.g., no genetically engineered corn in EU)
            6. Protective Technical Standards (Japan’s bowling ball test)
            7. Counterfeiting, Piracy, and IP Theft (Over $1 trillion a year)
            8. Transshipping to EVADE Tariffs!!!

            Education is extremely important.

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            • RenaudaR Offline
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              😂

              Elbows up!

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              • LuFins DadL Offline
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                LuFins Dad
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                #751

                #7 is the only legitimate one listed.

                The Brad

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                • RenaudaR Offline
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                  Actually #3 is legit as well. No country finds dumping acceptable. But it can be dealt with easily through the WTO process.

                  At a glance the rest are nonsense. Especially subsidies to the agriculture sector. The US is one of the top subsidisers of agri products..

                  Elbows up!

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                  • RenaudaR Renauda

                    Actually #3 is legit as well. No country finds dumping acceptable. But it can be dealt with easily through the WTO process.

                    At a glance the rest are nonsense. Especially subsidies to the agriculture sector. The US is one of the top subsidisers of agri products..

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                    @Renauda said in Trumpenomics:

                    Actually #3 is legit as well. No country finds dumping acceptable. But it can be dealt with easily through the WTO process.

                    At a glance the rest are nonsense. Especially subsidies to the agriculture sector. The US is one of the top subsidisers of agri products..

                    Fair enough.

                    The Brad

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                    • AxtremusA Away
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                      https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/boeing-jet-returns-us-china-victim-trumps-tariff-war-2025-04-20/

                      A completed, air-worthy Boeing 737 MAX that was already in China got returned to the USA -- because Xiamen Airlines, the supposed recipient of that airplane, cannot afford the tariffs and thus cannot take delivery.

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                        #755

                        Gold at an all time high.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                          Stocks down. Dollar down. Treasuries down.

                          It’s like the markets are beginning to realize that the real problem isn’t just the tariffs, but having a crazy man with far too much power over the economy.

                          Only non-witches get due process.

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                            Just wait until he figures out how to fire Powell and put Laura Loomer in charge of the Fed.

                            IMG_4635.jpeg

                            Only non-witches get due process.

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                              The semi-coherent ranting is certainly going to do wonders for market confidence.

                              I was only joking

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                                Trump is panicking that the rest of the world isn't cooperating with his insane economic gambits. From Powell to China, everybody is letting him dig his own grave.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                  Sooner or later all autocrats succumb to pathological paranoia. In Trump’s case it is sooner rather than later.

                                  Elbows up!

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                                    Rebuilding wealth, by intentionally destroying trade relationships which were creating wealth for every American with any economic skin in the game.


                                    @realDonaldTrump

                                    Since our announcement of LIBERATION DAY, many World Leaders and Business Executives have come to me asking for relief from Tariffs. It’s good to see that the World knows we are serious, because WE ARE! They must right the wrongs of decades of abuse, but it won’t be easy for them. We must rebuild the Wealth of our Great Country, and create true RECIPROCITY. But for those who want the easiest path: Come to America, and build in America!

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                      It's like a bully on the playground saying "many kids have come up to me asking for relief from my wedgies!"

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                                        I think this would be funnier if I knew the movie reference.

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                                          Always Sunny in Philadephia, TV show. I bought the first few seasons. It's very funny.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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