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  • R Renauda
    19 Apr 2025, 22:11

    I think trade barriers are also going to be thrown into the mix.

    Like what? Name some.

    You start…

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    LuFins Dad
    wrote on 20 Apr 2025, 19:35 last edited by
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    @Renauda said in Trumpenomics:

    I think trade barriers are also going to be thrown into the mix.

    Like what? Name some.

    You start…

    I’m sure we can make up some of the same ones they will pretend are real. VATs, over production and subsidization of their domestic manufacturers that are competitive with primary American exports. Low wage standards. The one that keeps getting talked about by some of the more respectable officials that I honestly don’t know much about and would appreciate more insight on is currency manipulation. That is something I would be curious to hear about.

    The Brad

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    • L LuFins Dad
      20 Apr 2025, 19:35

      @Renauda said in Trumpenomics:

      I think trade barriers are also going to be thrown into the mix.

      Like what? Name some.

      You start…

      I’m sure we can make up some of the same ones they will pretend are real. VATs, over production and subsidization of their domestic manufacturers that are competitive with primary American exports. Low wage standards. The one that keeps getting talked about by some of the more respectable officials that I honestly don’t know much about and would appreciate more insight on is currency manipulation. That is something I would be curious to hear about.

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      Renauda
      wrote on 20 Apr 2025, 21:32 last edited by
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      @LuFins-Dad

      The one that keeps getting talked about by some of the more respectable officials that I honestly don’t know much about and would appreciate more insight on is currency manipulation. That is something I would be curious to hear about.

      As would I. I think it only refers to countries like China, Russia, India and a few others that circulate what is essentially inconvertible currencies. Openly traded currencies like the dollar, Euro and British Pound are governed by their central banks and cannot be manipulated by their host states.

      Elbows up!

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        Horace
        wrote on 21 Apr 2025, 00:12 last edited by Horace
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        Trump's non-tariff trade barriers, posted today:


        NON-TARIFF CHEATING:

        1. Currency Manipulation
        2. VATs which act as tariffs and export subsidies
        3. Dumping Below Cost
        4. Export Subsidies and Other Govt. Subsidies
        5. Protective Agricultural Standards (e.g., no genetically engineered corn in EU)
        6. Protective Technical Standards (Japan’s bowling ball test)
        7. Counterfeiting, Piracy, and IP Theft (Over $1 trillion a year)
        8. Transshipping to EVADE Tariffs!!!

        Education is extremely important.

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          Renauda
          wrote on 21 Apr 2025, 01:26 last edited by
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          😂

          Elbows up!

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            LuFins Dad
            wrote on 21 Apr 2025, 01:50 last edited by
            #751

            #7 is the only legitimate one listed.

            The Brad

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              Renauda
              wrote on 21 Apr 2025, 01:57 last edited by
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              Actually #3 is legit as well. No country finds dumping acceptable. But it can be dealt with easily through the WTO process.

              At a glance the rest are nonsense. Especially subsidies to the agriculture sector. The US is one of the top subsidisers of agri products..

              Elbows up!

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              • R Renauda
                21 Apr 2025, 01:57

                Actually #3 is legit as well. No country finds dumping acceptable. But it can be dealt with easily through the WTO process.

                At a glance the rest are nonsense. Especially subsidies to the agriculture sector. The US is one of the top subsidisers of agri products..

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                LuFins Dad
                wrote on 21 Apr 2025, 03:10 last edited by
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                @Renauda said in Trumpenomics:

                Actually #3 is legit as well. No country finds dumping acceptable. But it can be dealt with easily through the WTO process.

                At a glance the rest are nonsense. Especially subsidies to the agriculture sector. The US is one of the top subsidisers of agri products..

                Fair enough.

                The Brad

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                  Axtremus
                  wrote on 21 Apr 2025, 11:10 last edited by
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                  https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/boeing-jet-returns-us-china-victim-trumps-tariff-war-2025-04-20/

                  A completed, air-worthy Boeing 737 MAX that was already in China got returned to the USA -- because Xiamen Airlines, the supposed recipient of that airplane, cannot afford the tariffs and thus cannot take delivery.

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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on 21 Apr 2025, 12:38 last edited by
                    #755

                    Gold at an all time high.

                    Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on 21 Apr 2025, 14:02 last edited by
                      #756

                      Stocks down. Dollar down. Treasuries down.

                      It’s like the markets are beginning to realize that the real problem isn’t just the tariffs, but having a crazy man with far too much power over the economy.

                      Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on 21 Apr 2025, 14:04 last edited by
                        #757

                        Just wait until he figures out how to fire Powell and put Laura Loomer in charge of the Fed.

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                          Doctor Phibes
                          wrote on 21 Apr 2025, 14:38 last edited by
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                          The semi-coherent ranting is certainly going to do wonders for market confidence.

                          I was only joking

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                            Horace
                            wrote on 21 Apr 2025, 14:53 last edited by
                            #759

                            Trump is panicking that the rest of the world isn't cooperating with his insane economic gambits. From Powell to China, everybody is letting him dig his own grave.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                              Renauda
                              wrote on 21 Apr 2025, 14:58 last edited by
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                              Sooner or later all autocrats succumb to pathological paranoia. In Trump’s case it is sooner rather than later.

                              Elbows up!

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                                Horace
                                wrote on 21 Apr 2025, 15:56 last edited by
                                #761

                                Rebuilding wealth, by intentionally destroying trade relationships which were creating wealth for every American with any economic skin in the game.


                                @realDonaldTrump

                                Since our announcement of LIBERATION DAY, many World Leaders and Business Executives have come to me asking for relief from Tariffs. It’s good to see that the World knows we are serious, because WE ARE! They must right the wrongs of decades of abuse, but it won’t be easy for them. We must rebuild the Wealth of our Great Country, and create true RECIPROCITY. But for those who want the easiest path: Come to America, and build in America!

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                  89th
                                  wrote on 21 Apr 2025, 16:34 last edited by
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                                  It's like a bully on the playground saying "many kids have come up to me asking for relief from my wedgies!"

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                                    jon-nyc
                                    wrote on 21 Apr 2025, 16:53 last edited by
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                                    I think this would be funnier if I knew the movie reference.

                                    Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                                      Horace
                                      wrote on 21 Apr 2025, 17:15 last edited by
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                                      Always Sunny in Philadephia, TV show. I bought the first few seasons. It's very funny.

                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                        jon-nyc
                                        wrote on 21 Apr 2025, 17:18 last edited by
                                        #765

                                        From wsj:

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                                        Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                                          Axtremus
                                          wrote on 21 Apr 2025, 17:52 last edited by
                                          #766

                                          Who are those two green arrows?

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