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  • X xenon
    13 Mar 2025, 02:33

    Speaking of audience capture - here’s VDH’s take on the tariff situation with Canada.

    He sounds reasonable too, which is impressive in its own right. But pretty much frames it that Canada is in the wrong and Trump is completely right.

    And he had a video on tariffs early feb too, where his point was that Trump doesn’t actually put on tariffs, just uses them as a diplomatic cudgel (eg prisoner deportation). But he didn’t address that here.

    Link to video

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    Renauda
    wrote on 13 Mar 2025, 02:47 last edited by Renauda
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    @xenon

    I watched it yesterday. He has some misconceptions about Canada. Particularly with regard to how he equates the supply management system here as a government subsidy as in the US and fails to acknowledge that US has been given a quota under CUSMA which it can export dairy products to Canada tariff free. The US. Is therefore treated like any dairy producer in Canada - it is given a percentage quota. I believe jon-nyc posted something about how that worked either in this thread or the Canada Tariff thread yesterday as well. I referenced the dairy supply management system as well in answer to a question TG had the other day.

    There was also a statement he made about oil and gas exports that was inaccurate

    Overall I rate it a C. He should do his homework.

    Elbows up!

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      xenon
      wrote on 13 Mar 2025, 02:50 last edited by
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      He’s a smart guy. I think he knows better, but doesn’t want to lose his audience over it.

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        Renauda
        wrote on 13 Mar 2025, 03:18 last edited by
        #162

        Still no excuse for sloppy thinking on his part.

        Elbows up!

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          jon-nyc
          wrote on 13 Mar 2025, 14:49 last edited by jon-nyc
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          Seeing a lot of this type of thing from business and finance types that voted Trump for the first time in 2024. They voted for him over wokeness, immigration, and Israel thinking the tariff stuff was mostly bluster.

          Asness used to run the quantitative finance desk at Goldman before going in to start AQR Capital Management. He has advanced degrees in both CS and quantitative finance. Smart guy.

          Only non-witches get due process.

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            Horace
            wrote on 13 Mar 2025, 15:10 last edited by
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            It's never been clear to me how anti-competitive manufacturing jobs are supposed to make america great again.

            Education is extremely important.

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              xenon
              wrote on 13 Mar 2025, 15:24 last edited by xenon
              #165

              Maybe, just maybe…. Trump’s an idiot. It’s worth considering.

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              • X xenon
                13 Mar 2025, 15:24

                Maybe, just maybe…. Trump’s an idiot. It’s worth considering.

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                Horace
                wrote on 13 Mar 2025, 15:29 last edited by
                #166

                @xenon If he's obstinate enough about some sort of religious attachment to tariffs, that'll do till the real idiocy gets here.

                Education is extremely important.

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                  xenon
                  wrote on 13 Mar 2025, 15:34 last edited by
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                  I’m not saying it’s not a different flavor of incompetence.

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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on 13 Mar 2025, 20:07 last edited by
                    #168

                    Fifth fasted correction since 1950.

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                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                    • H Horace
                      13 Mar 2025, 02:08

                      Stock market? More like drop market.

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                      Copper
                      wrote on 14 Mar 2025, 19:10 last edited by
                      #169

                      @Horace said in Trumpenomics:

                      Stock market? More like drop market.

                      Not any more, today it is going up like a rocket!

                      Let's all celebrate!

                      Thanks to Mr. Trump!

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                        89th
                        wrote on 14 Mar 2025, 22:08 last edited by
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                          Axtremus
                          wrote on 15 Mar 2025, 00:47 last edited by
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                          North Dakota went big for Trump. Now many farmers say they face an uncertain future

                          https://www.npr.org/2025/03/14/nx-s1-5320335/north-dakota-went-big-for-trump-now-many-farmers-say-they-face-an-uncertain-future

                          As they get bit by tariffs, the North Dakota farmers who voted for Trump may be experiencing "buyer's remorse."

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                            15 Mar 2025, 00:47

                            North Dakota went big for Trump. Now many farmers say they face an uncertain future

                            https://www.npr.org/2025/03/14/nx-s1-5320335/north-dakota-went-big-for-trump-now-many-farmers-say-they-face-an-uncertain-future

                            As they get bit by tariffs, the North Dakota farmers who voted for Trump may be experiencing "buyer's remorse."

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                            Copper
                            wrote on 15 Mar 2025, 00:57 last edited by
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                            @Axtremus said in Trumpenomics:

                            farmers say they face an uncertain future

                            Was there ever a farmer who did not face an uncertain future?

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                              Horace
                              wrote on 15 Mar 2025, 01:44 last edited by
                              #173

                              I’ll be worried if the tariffs don’t drop his poll numbers noticeably.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                              • T taiwan_girl
                                11 Mar 2025, 23:41

                                @89th said in Trumpenomics:

                                "Tariffs are a tax a tax hike on foreign countries. Tariffs are a tax cut for the American people."

                                Press secretary has to be one of the worst jobs I would not want.

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                                NobodySock
                                wrote on 15 Mar 2025, 07:21 last edited by
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                                @taiwan_girl said in Trumpenomics:

                                @89th said in Trumpenomics:

                                "Tariffs are a tax a tax hike on foreign countries. Tariffs are a tax cut for the American people."

                                Press secretary has to be one of the worst jobs I would not want.

                                If you lie good enough, you can become governor of a red state the very next election.

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                                • J jon-nyc
                                  13 Mar 2025, 20:07

                                  Fifth fasted correction since 1950.

                                  IMG_3593.jpeg

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                                  LuFins Dad
                                  wrote on 15 Mar 2025, 11:58 last edited by
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                                  @jon-nyc said in Trumpenomics:

                                  Fifth fasted correction since 1950.

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                                  That’s great news! It means everyone is investing in bonds, which is huge since we’re raising our debt and pretty soon no other countries will want to buy it! Winning at 5D Chess!

                                  The Brad

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                                    Jolly
                                    wrote on 15 Mar 2025, 12:00 last edited by Jolly
                                    #176

                                    If you lie good enough, you can become governor of a red state the very next election.

                                    Or you can run for POTUS in the 2028 Democrat primaries.

                                    Helps if you're half dead. Bring your own bongos.

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      jon-nyc
                                      wrote on 16 Mar 2025, 15:44 last edited by
                                      #177

                                      Ha.

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                                        Horace
                                        wrote on 16 Mar 2025, 15:48 last edited by
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                                        Good take from Larry Summers, starting at 9:30.

                                        Link to video

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                          jon-nyc
                                          wrote on 16 Mar 2025, 16:00 last edited by
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                                          Funny how they never claimed the stock market was "overvalued" during the late Biden administration, the fall campaign, the transition, or even Trump's first month when he promised immediate prosperity.

                                          But his tariffs cause a 10% freefall and suddenly "corrections are healthy."

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                                          Only non-witches get due process.

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