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  • X xenon

    Speaking of audience capture - here’s VDH’s take on the tariff situation with Canada.

    He sounds reasonable too, which is impressive in its own right. But pretty much frames it that Canada is in the wrong and Trump is completely right.

    And he had a video on tariffs early feb too, where his point was that Trump doesn’t actually put on tariffs, just uses them as a diplomatic cudgel (eg prisoner deportation). But he didn’t address that here.

    Link to video

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    @xenon

    I watched it yesterday. He has some misconceptions about Canada. Particularly with regard to how he equates the supply management system here as a government subsidy as in the US and fails to acknowledge that US has been given a quota under CUSMA which it can export dairy products to Canada tariff free. The US. Is therefore treated like any dairy producer in Canada - it is given a percentage quota. I believe jon-nyc posted something about how that worked either in this thread or the Canada Tariff thread yesterday as well. I referenced the dairy supply management system as well in answer to a question TG had the other day.

    There was also a statement he made about oil and gas exports that was inaccurate

    Overall I rate it a C. He should do his homework.

    Elbows up!

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      He’s a smart guy. I think he knows better, but doesn’t want to lose his audience over it.

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        Still no excuse for sloppy thinking on his part.

        Elbows up!

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          Seeing a lot of this type of thing from business and finance types that voted Trump for the first time in 2024. They voted for him over wokeness, immigration, and Israel thinking the tariff stuff was mostly bluster.

          Asness used to run the quantitative finance desk at Goldman before going in to start AQR Capital Management. He has advanced degrees in both CS and quantitative finance. Smart guy.

          Only non-witches get due process.

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            It's never been clear to me how anti-competitive manufacturing jobs are supposed to make america great again.

            Education is extremely important.

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              #165

              Maybe, just maybe…. Trump’s an idiot. It’s worth considering.

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              • X xenon

                Maybe, just maybe…. Trump’s an idiot. It’s worth considering.

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                @xenon If he's obstinate enough about some sort of religious attachment to tariffs, that'll do till the real idiocy gets here.

                Education is extremely important.

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                  I’m not saying it’s not a different flavor of incompetence.

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                    #168

                    Fifth fasted correction since 1950.

                    IMG_3593.jpeg

                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                    • HoraceH Horace

                      Stock market? More like drop market.

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                      @Horace said in Trumpenomics:

                      Stock market? More like drop market.

                      Not any more, today it is going up like a rocket!

                      Let's all celebrate!

                      Thanks to Mr. Trump!

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                          North Dakota went big for Trump. Now many farmers say they face an uncertain future

                          https://www.npr.org/2025/03/14/nx-s1-5320335/north-dakota-went-big-for-trump-now-many-farmers-say-they-face-an-uncertain-future

                          As they get bit by tariffs, the North Dakota farmers who voted for Trump may be experiencing "buyer's remorse."

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                          • AxtremusA Axtremus

                            North Dakota went big for Trump. Now many farmers say they face an uncertain future

                            https://www.npr.org/2025/03/14/nx-s1-5320335/north-dakota-went-big-for-trump-now-many-farmers-say-they-face-an-uncertain-future

                            As they get bit by tariffs, the North Dakota farmers who voted for Trump may be experiencing "buyer's remorse."

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                            @Axtremus said in Trumpenomics:

                            farmers say they face an uncertain future

                            Was there ever a farmer who did not face an uncertain future?

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                              I’ll be worried if the tariffs don’t drop his poll numbers noticeably.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                              • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                                @89th said in Trumpenomics:

                                "Tariffs are a tax a tax hike on foreign countries. Tariffs are a tax cut for the American people."

                                Press secretary has to be one of the worst jobs I would not want.

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                                @taiwan_girl said in Trumpenomics:

                                @89th said in Trumpenomics:

                                "Tariffs are a tax a tax hike on foreign countries. Tariffs are a tax cut for the American people."

                                Press secretary has to be one of the worst jobs I would not want.

                                If you lie good enough, you can become governor of a red state the very next election.

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                                  Fifth fasted correction since 1950.

                                  IMG_3593.jpeg

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                                  @jon-nyc said in Trumpenomics:

                                  Fifth fasted correction since 1950.

                                  IMG_3593.jpeg

                                  That’s great news! It means everyone is investing in bonds, which is huge since we’re raising our debt and pretty soon no other countries will want to buy it! Winning at 5D Chess!

                                  The Brad

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                                    If you lie good enough, you can become governor of a red state the very next election.

                                    Or you can run for POTUS in the 2028 Democrat primaries.

                                    Helps if you're half dead. Bring your own bongos.

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      jon-nyc
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                                      Ha.

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

                                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                        Good take from Larry Summers, starting at 9:30.

                                        Link to video

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                          Funny how they never claimed the stock market was "overvalued" during the late Biden administration, the fall campaign, the transition, or even Trump's first month when he promised immediate prosperity.

                                          But his tariffs cause a 10% freefall and suddenly "corrections are healthy."

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                                          Only non-witches get due process.

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