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  • HoraceH Offline
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    Horace
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    #164

    It's never been clear to me how anti-competitive manufacturing jobs are supposed to make america great again.

    Education is extremely important.

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      xenon
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      #165

      Maybe, just maybe…. Trump’s an idiot. It’s worth considering.

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        Maybe, just maybe…. Trump’s an idiot. It’s worth considering.

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        Horace
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        #166

        @xenon If he's obstinate enough about some sort of religious attachment to tariffs, that'll do till the real idiocy gets here.

        Education is extremely important.

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          I’m not saying it’s not a different flavor of incompetence.

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          • jon-nycJ Online
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            #168

            Fifth fasted correction since 1950.

            IMG_3593.jpeg

            You were warned.

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            • HoraceH Horace

              Stock market? More like drop market.

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              @Horace said in Trumpenomics:

              Stock market? More like drop market.

              Not any more, today it is going up like a rocket!

              Let's all celebrate!

              Thanks to Mr. Trump!

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                • AxtremusA Offline
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                  North Dakota went big for Trump. Now many farmers say they face an uncertain future

                  https://www.npr.org/2025/03/14/nx-s1-5320335/north-dakota-went-big-for-trump-now-many-farmers-say-they-face-an-uncertain-future

                  As they get bit by tariffs, the North Dakota farmers who voted for Trump may be experiencing "buyer's remorse."

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                  • AxtremusA Axtremus

                    North Dakota went big for Trump. Now many farmers say they face an uncertain future

                    https://www.npr.org/2025/03/14/nx-s1-5320335/north-dakota-went-big-for-trump-now-many-farmers-say-they-face-an-uncertain-future

                    As they get bit by tariffs, the North Dakota farmers who voted for Trump may be experiencing "buyer's remorse."

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                    @Axtremus said in Trumpenomics:

                    farmers say they face an uncertain future

                    Was there ever a farmer who did not face an uncertain future?

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                    • HoraceH Offline
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                      #173

                      I’ll be worried if the tariffs don’t drop his poll numbers noticeably.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                      • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                        @89th said in Trumpenomics:

                        "Tariffs are a tax a tax hike on foreign countries. Tariffs are a tax cut for the American people."

                        Press secretary has to be one of the worst jobs I would not want.

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                        @taiwan_girl said in Trumpenomics:

                        @89th said in Trumpenomics:

                        "Tariffs are a tax a tax hike on foreign countries. Tariffs are a tax cut for the American people."

                        Press secretary has to be one of the worst jobs I would not want.

                        If you lie good enough, you can become governor of a red state the very next election.

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                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                          Fifth fasted correction since 1950.

                          IMG_3593.jpeg

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                          @jon-nyc said in Trumpenomics:

                          Fifth fasted correction since 1950.

                          IMG_3593.jpeg

                          That’s great news! It means everyone is investing in bonds, which is huge since we’re raising our debt and pretty soon no other countries will want to buy it! Winning at 5D Chess!

                          The Brad

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                            #176

                            If you lie good enough, you can become governor of a red state the very next election.

                            Or you can run for POTUS in the 2028 Democrat primaries.

                            Helps if you're half dead. Bring your own bongos.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              jon-nyc
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                              #177

                              Ha.

                              You were warned.

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                                Horace
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                                Good take from Larry Summers, starting at 9:30.

                                Link to video

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                  jon-nyc
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                                  Funny how they never claimed the stock market was "overvalued" during the late Biden administration, the fall campaign, the transition, or even Trump's first month when he promised immediate prosperity.

                                  But his tariffs cause a 10% freefall and suddenly "corrections are healthy."

                                  IMG_3668.jpeg

                                  You were warned.

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                                    There was always a fair case to be made that the market was overvalued (and continues to be). But that doesn't mean that this correction has anything to do with anything other than the chaos tariffs.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                      Funny how they never claimed the stock market was "overvalued" during the late Biden administration, the fall campaign, the transition, or even Trump's first month when he promised immediate prosperity.

                                      But his tariffs cause a 10% freefall and suddenly "corrections are healthy."

                                      IMG_3668.jpeg

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                                      @jon-nyc said in Trumpenomics:

                                      Funny how they never claimed the stock market was "overvalued" during the late Biden administration, the fall campaign, the transition, or even Trump's first month when he promised immediate prosperity.

                                      But his tariffs cause a 10% freefall and suddenly "corrections are healthy."

                                      IMG_3668.jpeg

                                      That’s willfully ignoring many posts and links from @Jolly over that time discussing the real estate bubble and way out of proportion PE Ratios. There were discussions about why Buffett was holding so much cash, and several times there were links provided where Trump himself was stating there was a likely recession coming and he almost didn’t want the job because of the predicted downturn.

                                      All that being said, as @Horace pointed out, we are all still blaming the current fall on the Trump Tariff Tangent, and it’s likely not a true correction. We will have to wait and see.

                                      The Brad

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                                      • HoraceH Horace

                                        There was always a fair case to be made that the market was overvalued (and continues to be). But that doesn't mean that this correction has anything to do with anything other than the chaos tariffs.

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                                        jon-nyc
                                        wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
                                        #182

                                        @Horace said in Trumpenomics:

                                        There was always a fair case to be made that the market was overvalued (and continues to be). But that doesn't mean that this correction has anything to do with anything other than the chaos tariffs.

                                        My point was they (Trump and his financial team) never even hinted that they believed that before the Trump sell off.

                                        You were warned.

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                                          xenon
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                                          Existing over valuation - if it were real - makes the situation worse.

                                          The fed will use its dry powder to combat the tariff-induced slowdown. When (if) the real slowdown comes, we’re extra fucked.

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