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  • jon-nycJ Offline
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    wrote last edited by jon-nyc
    #1038

    There’s talk of firing Powell again. I doubt he goes there. It’s just threats that will be ineffective. I mean the guy is gone in 10 months anyway, is he going to sell out to Trump or preserve his reputation and that of the Fed?

    Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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      #1039

      I was 4 the last time we had such a dollar slide.

      Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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      • jon-nycJ Offline
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        #1040

        Canada is the top export market of American merchandise so far this year, as it was last year.

        Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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        • 89th8 Offline
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          #1041

          He’s someone who, while he’s talking, the BS Alarm is blaring the whole time. Like a sketchy salesman.

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          • RenaudaR Offline
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            #1042

            Lutnick (or Nutlick) is about as genuine as a $3 bill.

            Elbows up!

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            • jon-nycJ Offline
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              #1043

              Stellantis (parent company of Chrysler) lost over $2B thanks to Trump.

              IMG_6465.png

              Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                Stellantis (parent company of Chrysler) lost over $2B thanks to Trump.

                IMG_6465.png

                LuFins DadL Offline
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                #1044

                @jon-nyc said in Trumpenomics:

                Stellantis (parent company of Chrysler) lost over $2B thanks to Trump.

                IMG_6465.png

                No, they lost $1B in directly attributable tariff charges. In all fairness, Stellantis had a drop of 70% from 23-24. Most of the losses so far this year is a continuation of the same drop they had last year.

                Besides, aren’t the Tariffs ultimately paid by the consumer and not the company? Yet, new car sales are up 3% in the US this year despite the tariffs. And the US is only 20% of the global car market. Blaming the tariffs for Stellantis failings is lazy.

                The Brad

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                • jon-nycJ Offline
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                  #1045

                  It’s not just direct costs of tariffs, it included charges for shuttering plants in CA and MX and laying off workers in Michigan.

                  From AP:

                  Stellantis, the maker of Jeep and Ram vehicles, says its preliminary estimates show a 2.3 billion euros ($2.68 billion) net loss in the first half of the year due to U.S. tariffs and some hefty charges.

                  The automaker anticipates an impact of about 300 million euros for net tariffs incurred, and also expects planned production losses related to implementing its response plan.

                  The automaker provided preliminary financial figures on Monday after suspending financial guidance in April due to Trump’s tariffs. It also halted production at plants in Canada and Mexico in response to a 25% tax on imported cars, and it temporarily laid off 900 workers at plants in Michigan and Indiana.

                  Stellantis expects approximately 3.3 billion euros ($3.84 billion) of pretax net charges mostly related to program cancellation costs and platform impairments, restructuring and the net impact of costs related to emission standards. Automakers have been penalized if the average fuel economy of their annual fleet of vehicle production exceeds a certain level.

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                  • jon-nycJ Offline
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                    #1046

                    Great moments in central planning.

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                    • HoraceH Offline
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                      #1047

                      The US Economy Was Supposed to Be in a Recession By Now. What Happened?

                      https://www.derekthompson.org/p/if-trumps-economic-ideas-are-so-terrible?utm_source=multiple-personal-recommendations-email&utm_medium=email&triedRedirect=true

                      Education is extremely important.

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                      • HoraceH Horace

                        The US Economy Was Supposed to Be in a Recession By Now. What Happened?

                        https://www.derekthompson.org/p/if-trumps-economic-ideas-are-so-terrible?utm_source=multiple-personal-recommendations-email&utm_medium=email&triedRedirect=true

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                        @Horace said in Trumpenomics:

                        The US Economy Was Supposed to Be in a Recession By Now. What Happened?

                        https://www.derekthompson.org/p/if-trumps-economic-ideas-are-so-terrible?utm_source=multiple-personal-recommendations-email&utm_medium=email&triedRedirect=true

                        I have sincere doubts and disagreement with many of Trump’s policies. I am still a little amazed that things are still … not horrible yet.

                        The Brad

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                        • AxtremusA Offline
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                          Look at that large downward revision of May and June's jobs data:

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                          https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/07/31/business/tariffs-trump-trade?rsrc=ss&unlocked_article_code=1.a08.8SeH.ZQ6cd-Y_h1SI

                          U.S. employers added 73,000 jobs in July, less than economists expected, and the unemployment rate rose slightly. The report on Friday also significantly revised down the data on hiring from May and June by a combined 258,000 jobs, suggesting the labor market was under greater strain than initially believed. ...

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                            #1050

                            75% of the new jobs were in healthcare. That seems odd. Maybe that’s just a normal month in an industry that is growing as a percentage of gdp.

                            Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                              You’d think I’d be numb to this by now. This is insane, but also predictable.

                              https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/aug/01/trump-fires-erika-mcentarfer-labor-statistics

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                                He has China envy. Markets are going to love this.

                                Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                                  #1053

                                  Another interesting thing about our growth is most of it is AI capex. The mag 7 are spending over a billion dollars a day on new data center infrastructure.

                                  That has exceeded consumer spending as a proportion of growth.

                                  Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                                    #1054

                                    Indeed. I stumbled into investing in Palantir in Jan 2023. It’s up 2100% now so I just sold 1/3 of it. The bubble will burst one day, I think their PE ratio is like 650 or something.

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                                      https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-08-02/trump-s-next-job-selling-skeptical-americans-on-his-economy

                                      USGDP2025.jpeg

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