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  • HoraceH Horace

    The US Economy Was Supposed to Be in a Recession By Now. What Happened?

    https://www.derekthompson.org/p/if-trumps-economic-ideas-are-so-terrible?utm_source=multiple-personal-recommendations-email&utm_medium=email&triedRedirect=true

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    @Horace said in Trumpenomics:

    The US Economy Was Supposed to Be in a Recession By Now. What Happened?

    https://www.derekthompson.org/p/if-trumps-economic-ideas-are-so-terrible?utm_source=multiple-personal-recommendations-email&utm_medium=email&triedRedirect=true

    I have sincere doubts and disagreement with many of Trump’s policies. I am still a little amazed that things are still … not horrible yet.

    The Brad

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      Look at that large downward revision of May and June's jobs data:

      IMG_7704.jpeg

      https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/07/31/business/tariffs-trump-trade?rsrc=ss&unlocked_article_code=1.a08.8SeH.ZQ6cd-Y_h1SI

      U.S. employers added 73,000 jobs in July, less than economists expected, and the unemployment rate rose slightly. The report on Friday also significantly revised down the data on hiring from May and June by a combined 258,000 jobs, suggesting the labor market was under greater strain than initially believed. ...

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        #1050

        75% of the new jobs were in healthcare. That seems odd. Maybe that’s just a normal month in an industry that is growing as a percentage of gdp.

        Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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          You’d think I’d be numb to this by now. This is insane, but also predictable.

          https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/aug/01/trump-fires-erika-mcentarfer-labor-statistics

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            #1052

            He has China envy. Markets are going to love this.

            Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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              #1053

              Another interesting thing about our growth is most of it is AI capex. The mag 7 are spending over a billion dollars a day on new data center infrastructure.

              That has exceeded consumer spending as a proportion of growth.

              Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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              • 89th8 Offline
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                #1054

                Indeed. I stumbled into investing in Palantir in Jan 2023. It’s up 2100% now so I just sold 1/3 of it. The bubble will burst one day, I think their PE ratio is like 650 or something.

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                  https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-08-02/trump-s-next-job-selling-skeptical-americans-on-his-economy

                  USGDP2025.jpeg

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                  • 89th8 89th

                    Indeed. I stumbled into investing in Palantir in Jan 2023. It’s up 2100% now so I just sold 1/3 of it. The bubble will burst one day, I think their PE ratio is like 650 or something.

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                    @89th said in Trumpenomics:

                    Indeed. I stumbled into investing in Palantir in Jan 2023. It’s up 2100% now so I just sold 1/3 of it. The bubble will burst one day, I think their PE ratio is like 650 or something.

                    Nice. Purchasing individual stocks is an inferior strategy to a well balanced mix of funds, except when it’s not.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                      #1057

                      He’s doubling down on the 1500% cut in drug prices.

                      Someone asks Grok to explain:

                      A 1500% cut means reducing by 15 times the original price, e.g., a $100 drug becomes -$1400—you'd get paid to take it. Yes, that's a lot, but impossible without negative prices. Likely a misstatement; Trump's actual drug price reductions were more modest, around 1-5% annually.

                      Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                        While I would expect one of the most prominent business people in the world, and in a business that is specifically tied into interest rates and percentages, I would expect better… But… When we are spending 1500% more on drugs than the Phillipines and 400% more than most European countries, I would expect that most of his voters get it…

                        The Brad

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                        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                          While I would expect one of the most prominent business people in the world, and in a business that is specifically tied into interest rates and percentages, I would expect better… But… When we are spending 1500% more on drugs than the Phillipines and 400% more than most European countries, I would expect that most of his voters get it…

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                          @LuFins-Dad said in Trumpenomics:

                          While I would expect one of the most prominent business people in the world, and in a business that is specifically tied into interest rates and percentages, I would expect better… But… When we are spending 1500% more on drugs than the Phillipines and 400% more than most European countries, I would expect that most of his voters get it…

                          Besides, just think about the alternative.
                          Is it still better than the alternative?

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                            @LuFins-Dad said in Trumpenomics:

                            While I would expect one of the most prominent business people in the world, and in a business that is specifically tied into interest rates and percentages, I would expect better… But… When we are spending 1500% more on drugs than the Phillipines and 400% more than most European countries, I would expect that most of his voters get it…

                            Besides, just think about the alternative.
                            Is it still better than the alternative?

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                            @Axtremus said in Trumpenomics:

                            @LuFins-Dad said in Trumpenomics:

                            While I would expect one of the most prominent business people in the world, and in a business that is specifically tied into interest rates and percentages, I would expect better… But… When we are spending 1500% more on drugs than the Phillipines and 400% more than most European countries, I would expect that most of his voters get it…

                            Besides, just think about the alternative.
                            Is it still better than the alternative?

                            Absofuckinglutely.

                            The Brad

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                            • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                              @Axtremus said in Trumpenomics:

                              @LuFins-Dad said in Trumpenomics:

                              While I would expect one of the most prominent business people in the world, and in a business that is specifically tied into interest rates and percentages, I would expect better… But… When we are spending 1500% more on drugs than the Phillipines and 400% more than most European countries, I would expect that most of his voters get it…

                              Besides, just think about the alternative.
                              Is it still better than the alternative?

                              Absofuckinglutely.

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                              Doctor Phibes
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                              #1061

                              @LuFins-Dad said in Trumpenomics:

                              @Axtremus said in Trumpenomics:

                              @LuFins-Dad said in Trumpenomics:

                              While I would expect one of the most prominent business people in the world, and in a business that is specifically tied into interest rates and percentages, I would expect better… But… When we are spending 1500% more on drugs than the Phillipines and 400% more than most European countries, I would expect that most of his voters get it…

                              Besides, just think about the alternative.
                              Is it still better than the alternative?

                              Absofuckinglutely.

                              I hate to be pernickity, but could you confirm that when you speak of "the alternative" you are referring to the election of President Kamala Harris, and not the earth being destroyed by a huge fucking meteor?

                              I was only joking

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                                It’s always interesting to see how much these otherwise intelligent people are willing to debase themselves in front of their entire profession (and be complicit in harming the American economy) all in service to Donald Trump.

                                Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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