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  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

    Real wages have been growing since 2022. Though they’re down in q1 from 4q2024.

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    @jon-nyc said in Trumpenomics:

    Real wages have been growing since 2022. Though they’re down in q1 from 4q2024.

    And it was fantastic for the illegals…

    The Brad

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      #1012

      Trump announced a 50% tariff on copper. I think we have maybe 5% of the world’s supply, Chile has like 30%.

      Besides needlessly making construction and power generation more expensive, we’ve seen in the past when copper prices rise, so does crime as people steal/destroy things with high copper content to sell them.

      Nice going, Trump.

      Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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        #1013

        It seems so economically pointless it makes me wonder if this is a patronage play that belongs in the corruption thread.

        Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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          xenon
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          Every business plan in corporate America this year just has a line item for "chaos monkey" right now. This is ridiculous.

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            #1015

            With all the taxes on lumber and copper... get ready for even higher new home build prices!

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              Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                Trumpflation has landed…

                https://www.reuters.com/business/us-inflation-expected-rise-june-with-tariff-driven-price-hikes-2025-07-15/

                The Brad

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                  #1018

                  Lots of companies have been able to hold out with supply on hand (or supply they stocked up on) - with the hopes that we’d have more clarity before having to raise price.

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                    #1019

                    Yamaha price increase announced for August 1… But that’s been a fairly typical timeframe. I don’t mind saying the increase is above inflation…

                    The Brad

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                      #1020

                      I was on an investment strategy call with Merrill and they still think the tariffs are mostly a tactical threat and that they still expect decent corporate earnings for Q2, many coming out this week.

                      Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                        #1021

                        One funny thing though, they always come up with pithy names for various bear market episodes when they refer to them or compare them across time.

                        Example, the dot-com bust, the Great Financial Crisis, Covid, etc.

                        The name they settled on for the spring bear market and the associated volatility is ‘The Tariff Tantrum’.

                        Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                          https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/15/us/politics/canada-tariffs-mark-carney-trump.html

                          Canada’s Leader Says There’s Little Hope of Avoiding U.S. Tariffs
                          After long insisting that Canada could avoid Trump tariffs through talks, Mark Carney now says that is unlikely for any nation.

                          Maybe the sh!t will hit the fan for real this time. 🤷

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                            So basically time the Trump Tariff Tantrum and make some money but get out of the market before the great dollar collapse of 2035?

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                              We’ll see. Their ‘base case’ forecast is always pretty optimistic. They are in the business of getting you to invest your money after all, not put it in your mattress.

                              Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                We’ll see. Their ‘base case’ forecast is always pretty optimistic. They are in the business of getting you to invest your money after all, not put it in your mattress.

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                                @jon-nyc said in Trumpenomics:

                                We’ll see. Their ‘base case’ forecast is always pretty optimistic. They are in the business of getting you to invest your money after all, not put it in your mattress.

                                I’m having to attend a little strategy lunch with my finance guy tomorrow. I’m wondering what he’ll propose and how I’l react. My son had his meeting last week, and now a small portion of his portfolio has been infused with Crypto. AI and Bitcoin seem to be topics of Zoom meetings and webinars of late, but I don’t understand this stuff, .. at my stage of life, I hesitate. Yet I’ve too much sitting as cash, and my freeholder stuff isn’t flowing so well now. I’m quite tired of your president’s Tariff Tantum.

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                                • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                  https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/15/us/politics/canada-tariffs-mark-carney-trump.html

                                  Canada’s Leader Says There’s Little Hope of Avoiding U.S. Tariffs
                                  After long insisting that Canada could avoid Trump tariffs through talks, Mark Carney now says that is unlikely for any nation.

                                  Maybe the sh!t will hit the fan for real this time. 🤷

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                                  @Axtremus said in Trumpenomics:

                                  https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/15/us/politics/canada-tariffs-mark-carney-trump.html

                                  Canada’s Leader Says There’s Little Hope of Avoiding U.S. Tariffs
                                  After long insisting that Canada could avoid Trump tariffs through talks, Mark Carney now says that is unlikely for any nation.

                                  Maybe the sh!t will hit the fan for real this time. 🤷

                                  Carney is just being realistic about the future trading relationship. No sense looking at it any other way.

                                  Canada will just have to build closer trade and investment relations with the UK, EU, the Asian markets and South America where practicable.

                                  Elbows up!

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                                    By the way, Trump put a 50% tariff on Brazilian imports. That’s where 1/3 of our coffee comes from.

                                    I read that if you grew coffee on every square inch of land in the US that can grow coffee, most of which is in Hawaii, it would keep the Pacific Northwest supplied with coffee for a week.

                                    Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                      By the way, Trump put a 50% tariff on Brazilian imports. That’s where 1/3 of our coffee comes from.

                                      I read that if you grew coffee on every square inch of land in the US that can grow coffee, most of which is in Hawaii, it would keep the Pacific Northwest supplied with coffee for a week.

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                                      @jon-nyc said in Trumpenomics:

                                      By the way, Trump put a 50% tariff on Brazilian imports. That’s where 1/3 of our coffee comes from.

                                      I read that if you grew coffee on every square inch of land in the US that can grow coffee, most of which is in Hawaii, it would keep the Pacific Northwest supplied with coffee for a week.

                                      FFS, coffee beans are already wholesaling for 2x-3x what they were 5 years ago. My favorite coffee that I was buying for $12 a bag in 2020 is $18 right now…

                                      The Brad

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                                      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                        @jon-nyc said in Trumpenomics:

                                        By the way, Trump put a 50% tariff on Brazilian imports. That’s where 1/3 of our coffee comes from.

                                        I read that if you grew coffee on every square inch of land in the US that can grow coffee, most of which is in Hawaii, it would keep the Pacific Northwest supplied with coffee for a week.

                                        FFS, coffee beans are already wholesaling for 2x-3x what they were 5 years ago. My favorite coffee that I was buying for $12 a bag in 2020 is $18 right now…

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                                        @LuFins-Dad said in Trumpenomics:

                                        FFS, coffee beans are already wholesaling for 2x-3x what they were 5 years ago. My favorite coffee that I was buying for $12 a bag in 2020 is $18 right now…

                                        Calm down, man. Just think about the alternative. Is it still better than the alternative?

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                                        • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                          @LuFins-Dad said in Trumpenomics:

                                          FFS, coffee beans are already wholesaling for 2x-3x what they were 5 years ago. My favorite coffee that I was buying for $12 a bag in 2020 is $18 right now…

                                          Calm down, man. Just think about the alternative. Is it still better than the alternative?

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                                          LuFins Dad
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                                          @Axtremus said in Trumpenomics:

                                          @LuFins-Dad said in Trumpenomics:

                                          FFS, coffee beans are already wholesaling for 2x-3x what they were 5 years ago. My favorite coffee that I was buying for $12 a bag in 2020 is $18 right now…

                                          Calm down, man. Just think about the alternative. Is it still better than the alternative?

                                          Oh fuck yeah.

                                          The Brad

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