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  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

    The inability of people to STFU and wait for some level of actual evidence to emerge is really quite disheartening.

    Of course, the Commander in Chief has the impulse control of a 9 year old who's just raided his dad's stash of steroids, which really doesn't help.

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    @Doctor-Phibes said in Helicopter Crash in DC:

    The inability of people to STFU and wait for some level of actual evidence to emerge is really quite disheartening.

    Of course, the Commander in Chief has the impulse control of a 9 year old who's just raided his dad's stash of steroids, which really doesn't help.

    People STFU?

    Stand at the water's edge and scream at the tide...

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • JollyJ Jolly

      @Doctor-Phibes said in Helicopter Crash in DC:

      The inability of people to STFU and wait for some level of actual evidence to emerge is really quite disheartening.

      Of course, the Commander in Chief has the impulse control of a 9 year old who's just raided his dad's stash of steroids, which really doesn't help.

      People STFU?

      Stand at the water's edge and scream at the tide...

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      @Jolly said in Helicopter Crash in DC:

      @Doctor-Phibes said in Helicopter Crash in DC:

      The inability of people to STFU and wait for some level of actual evidence to emerge is really quite disheartening.

      Of course, the Commander in Chief has the impulse control of a 9 year old who's just raided his dad's stash of steroids, which really doesn't help.

      People STFU?

      Stand at the water's edge and scream at the tide...

      Well, I actually meant people in positions of authority.

      As far as shouting at the sea goes, the Britons had King Cnut, now apparently we've got his anagram.

      I was only joking

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      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

        The inability of people to STFU and wait for some level of actual evidence to emerge is really quite disheartening.

        Of course, the Commander in Chief has the impulse control of a 9 year old who's just raided his dad's stash of steroids, which really doesn't help.

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        @Doctor-Phibes said in Helicopter Crash in DC:

        The inability of people to STFU and wait for some level of actual evidence to emerge is really quite disheartening.

        Of course, the Commander in Chief has the impulse control of a 9 year old who's just raided his dad's stash of steroids, which really doesn't help.

        Well said. If he could just stop taking about topics he’s not informed on and/or added just a little humility and grace, he’d win so many people over.

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          #184

          Some details about historic DEI hiring practices, the class action lawsuits that followed, and their lingering effects on the quality and quantity of air traffic controllers:

          There were some nuts peak-DEI things happening. 84% of applicants were discarded, regardless of qualification, if they did not "pass" a biographical questionnaire designed to target black people, and with astonishing amounts of embedded racist assumptions. One of the questions, for instance, was whether you did poorly in science class in high school. If you did, you got points. There's more.

          Link to video

          Education is extremely important.

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            #185

            Aww, damn. I just found out one of our students was one of the figure skaters to die in the frigging crash. He’s been coming in on
            Sundays for 13 years. His parents wouldn’t come in, just drop him off. He’d wait for them to pick him up and were always late. So he’d sit and play video game music until they showed up. They died, too. FFS.

            https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/01/us/dc-plane-crash-skater-family.html

            The Brad

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            • 89th8 Offline
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              #186

              Ugh man, sorry to hear.

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              • RichR Offline
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                wow

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                • jon-nycJ Online
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                  Ugh.

                  Only non-witches get due process.

                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                    Airline pilots received more than 100 cockpit warnings over the past decade that they were in danger of a midair collision with a helicopter near Reagan National Airport, according to flight-tracking and government incident data, a record of repeated risks compiled by air traffic controllers before the Jan. 29 crash that killed 67 people.

                    and

                    Each of the incidents reviewed by The Post triggered an automated cockpit warning advising airliner pilots to take action to avoid a collision — causing them in many cases to abort landings or change flight paths.

                    Air traffic controllers have raised concerns to managers within the FAA in the past decade — including in writing, according to two people familiar with operations at National Airport and correspondence reviewed by The Post.

                    In 2020, controllers outlined the challenges, according to the correspondence: Helicopters could be told to wait for airline traffic to pass, potentially affecting national security and police work. Changing the helicopter corridors along the river could draw noise complaints, a perennial issue around Washington. Taking no action would mean airliners would need to abort landings and conduct “go-rounds” to avoid potential collisions.

                    One proposal in recent years involved shifting a helicopter route that follows the Potomac River inland to Interstate 295, the people said. That would put it farther from the approach to National Airport’s Runway 33. The route was not changed: The current description for Route 4, the path flown by the Black Hawk helicopter involved in the collision last month, is word-for-word the same as it was in 2012.

                    https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/02/13/dca-airport-crash-warnings-helicopters-airliner/

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                    • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                      Airline pilots received more than 100 cockpit warnings over the past decade that they were in danger of a midair collision with a helicopter near Reagan National Airport, according to flight-tracking and government incident data, a record of repeated risks compiled by air traffic controllers before the Jan. 29 crash that killed 67 people.

                      and

                      Each of the incidents reviewed by The Post triggered an automated cockpit warning advising airliner pilots to take action to avoid a collision — causing them in many cases to abort landings or change flight paths.

                      Air traffic controllers have raised concerns to managers within the FAA in the past decade — including in writing, according to two people familiar with operations at National Airport and correspondence reviewed by The Post.

                      In 2020, controllers outlined the challenges, according to the correspondence: Helicopters could be told to wait for airline traffic to pass, potentially affecting national security and police work. Changing the helicopter corridors along the river could draw noise complaints, a perennial issue around Washington. Taking no action would mean airliners would need to abort landings and conduct “go-rounds” to avoid potential collisions.

                      One proposal in recent years involved shifting a helicopter route that follows the Potomac River inland to Interstate 295, the people said. That would put it farther from the approach to National Airport’s Runway 33. The route was not changed: The current description for Route 4, the path flown by the Black Hawk helicopter involved in the collision last month, is word-for-word the same as it was in 2012.

                      https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/02/13/dca-airport-crash-warnings-helicopters-airliner/

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                      @taiwan_girl said in Helicopter Crash in DC:

                      more than 100 cockpit warnings over the past decade that they were in danger of a midair collision

                      That is a busy weekend at a General Aviation airport.

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