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    Mik
    wrote on 2 Feb 2025, 19:22 last edited by
    #178

    The race to use this as political fodder is disgusting.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      Jolly
      wrote on 2 Feb 2025, 19:58 last edited by
      #179

      More on the DEI stuff...

      https://pjmedia.com/matt-margolis/2025/02/02/sean-duffy-schools-tapper-about-the-importance-of-safety-over-dei-n4936602

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        Doctor Phibes
        wrote on 2 Feb 2025, 22:17 last edited by Doctor Phibes 2 Feb 2025, 22:18
        #180

        The inability of people to STFU and wait for some level of actual evidence to emerge is really quite disheartening.

        Of course, the Commander in Chief has the impulse control of a 9 year old who's just raided his dad's stash of steroids, which really doesn't help.

        I was only joking

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        • D Doctor Phibes
          2 Feb 2025, 22:17

          The inability of people to STFU and wait for some level of actual evidence to emerge is really quite disheartening.

          Of course, the Commander in Chief has the impulse control of a 9 year old who's just raided his dad's stash of steroids, which really doesn't help.

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          Jolly
          wrote on 2 Feb 2025, 22:19 last edited by
          #181

          @Doctor-Phibes said in Helicopter Crash in DC:

          The inability of people to STFU and wait for some level of actual evidence to emerge is really quite disheartening.

          Of course, the Commander in Chief has the impulse control of a 9 year old who's just raided his dad's stash of steroids, which really doesn't help.

          People STFU?

          Stand at the water's edge and scream at the tide...

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • J Jolly
            2 Feb 2025, 22:19

            @Doctor-Phibes said in Helicopter Crash in DC:

            The inability of people to STFU and wait for some level of actual evidence to emerge is really quite disheartening.

            Of course, the Commander in Chief has the impulse control of a 9 year old who's just raided his dad's stash of steroids, which really doesn't help.

            People STFU?

            Stand at the water's edge and scream at the tide...

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            Doctor Phibes
            wrote on 2 Feb 2025, 22:26 last edited by
            #182

            @Jolly said in Helicopter Crash in DC:

            @Doctor-Phibes said in Helicopter Crash in DC:

            The inability of people to STFU and wait for some level of actual evidence to emerge is really quite disheartening.

            Of course, the Commander in Chief has the impulse control of a 9 year old who's just raided his dad's stash of steroids, which really doesn't help.

            People STFU?

            Stand at the water's edge and scream at the tide...

            Well, I actually meant people in positions of authority.

            As far as shouting at the sea goes, the Britons had King Cnut, now apparently we've got his anagram.

            I was only joking

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            • D Doctor Phibes
              2 Feb 2025, 22:17

              The inability of people to STFU and wait for some level of actual evidence to emerge is really quite disheartening.

              Of course, the Commander in Chief has the impulse control of a 9 year old who's just raided his dad's stash of steroids, which really doesn't help.

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              89th
              wrote on 3 Feb 2025, 02:21 last edited by
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              @Doctor-Phibes said in Helicopter Crash in DC:

              The inability of people to STFU and wait for some level of actual evidence to emerge is really quite disheartening.

              Of course, the Commander in Chief has the impulse control of a 9 year old who's just raided his dad's stash of steroids, which really doesn't help.

              Well said. If he could just stop taking about topics he’s not informed on and/or added just a little humility and grace, he’d win so many people over.

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                Horace
                wrote on 3 Feb 2025, 18:17 last edited by Horace 2 Mar 2025, 18:17
                #184

                Some details about historic DEI hiring practices, the class action lawsuits that followed, and their lingering effects on the quality and quantity of air traffic controllers:

                There were some nuts peak-DEI things happening. 84% of applicants were discarded, regardless of qualification, if they did not "pass" a biographical questionnaire designed to target black people, and with astonishing amounts of embedded racist assumptions. One of the questions, for instance, was whether you did poorly in science class in high school. If you did, you got points. There's more.

                Link to video

                Education is extremely important.

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                  LuFins Dad
                  wrote on 7 Feb 2025, 20:10 last edited by LuFins Dad 2 Jul 2025, 21:01
                  #185

                  Aww, damn. I just found out one of our students was one of the figure skaters to die in the frigging crash. He’s been coming in on
                  Sundays for 13 years. His parents wouldn’t come in, just drop him off. He’d wait for them to pick him up and were always late. So he’d sit and play video game music until they showed up. They died, too. FFS.

                  https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/01/us/dc-plane-crash-skater-family.html

                  The Brad

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                    89th
                    wrote on 7 Feb 2025, 20:30 last edited by
                    #186

                    Ugh man, sorry to hear.

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                      Rich
                      wrote on 7 Feb 2025, 20:34 last edited by
                      #187

                      wow

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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on 7 Feb 2025, 20:35 last edited by
                        #188

                        Ugh.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                          taiwan_girl
                          wrote on 19 Feb 2025, 02:18 last edited by
                          #189

                          Airline pilots received more than 100 cockpit warnings over the past decade that they were in danger of a midair collision with a helicopter near Reagan National Airport, according to flight-tracking and government incident data, a record of repeated risks compiled by air traffic controllers before the Jan. 29 crash that killed 67 people.

                          and

                          Each of the incidents reviewed by The Post triggered an automated cockpit warning advising airliner pilots to take action to avoid a collision — causing them in many cases to abort landings or change flight paths.

                          Air traffic controllers have raised concerns to managers within the FAA in the past decade — including in writing, according to two people familiar with operations at National Airport and correspondence reviewed by The Post.

                          In 2020, controllers outlined the challenges, according to the correspondence: Helicopters could be told to wait for airline traffic to pass, potentially affecting national security and police work. Changing the helicopter corridors along the river could draw noise complaints, a perennial issue around Washington. Taking no action would mean airliners would need to abort landings and conduct “go-rounds” to avoid potential collisions.

                          One proposal in recent years involved shifting a helicopter route that follows the Potomac River inland to Interstate 295, the people said. That would put it farther from the approach to National Airport’s Runway 33. The route was not changed: The current description for Route 4, the path flown by the Black Hawk helicopter involved in the collision last month, is word-for-word the same as it was in 2012.

                          https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/02/13/dca-airport-crash-warnings-helicopters-airliner/

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                          • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl
                            19 Feb 2025, 02:18

                            Airline pilots received more than 100 cockpit warnings over the past decade that they were in danger of a midair collision with a helicopter near Reagan National Airport, according to flight-tracking and government incident data, a record of repeated risks compiled by air traffic controllers before the Jan. 29 crash that killed 67 people.

                            and

                            Each of the incidents reviewed by The Post triggered an automated cockpit warning advising airliner pilots to take action to avoid a collision — causing them in many cases to abort landings or change flight paths.

                            Air traffic controllers have raised concerns to managers within the FAA in the past decade — including in writing, according to two people familiar with operations at National Airport and correspondence reviewed by The Post.

                            In 2020, controllers outlined the challenges, according to the correspondence: Helicopters could be told to wait for airline traffic to pass, potentially affecting national security and police work. Changing the helicopter corridors along the river could draw noise complaints, a perennial issue around Washington. Taking no action would mean airliners would need to abort landings and conduct “go-rounds” to avoid potential collisions.

                            One proposal in recent years involved shifting a helicopter route that follows the Potomac River inland to Interstate 295, the people said. That would put it farther from the approach to National Airport’s Runway 33. The route was not changed: The current description for Route 4, the path flown by the Black Hawk helicopter involved in the collision last month, is word-for-word the same as it was in 2012.

                            https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/02/13/dca-airport-crash-warnings-helicopters-airliner/

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                            Copper
                            wrote on 19 Feb 2025, 14:53 last edited by
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                            @taiwan_girl said in Helicopter Crash in DC:

                            more than 100 cockpit warnings over the past decade that they were in danger of a midair collision

                            That is a busy weekend at a General Aviation airport.

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