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  • CopperC Online
    CopperC Online
    Copper
    wrote on last edited by
    #177

    Virginia transgender National Guard pilot falsely targeted
    ‘Proof of life’ video posted after fatal DC-area crash

    By Stuart A. Thompson The New York Times
    Jo Ellis, a helicopter pilot in the Virginia Army National Guard, was falsely identified as the captain of the crashed Black Hawk helicopter in thousands of social media posts last week. The flurry of falsehoods were so extreme that Ellis, who is transgender, posted a “proof of life” video to Facebook clarifying that she is alive and had not flown the crashed chopper.

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    • MikM Away
      MikM Away
      Mik
      wrote on last edited by
      #178

      The race to use this as political fodder is disgusting.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • JollyJ Offline
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        Jolly
        wrote on last edited by
        #179

        More on the DEI stuff...

        https://pjmedia.com/matt-margolis/2025/02/02/sean-duffy-schools-tapper-about-the-importance-of-safety-over-dei-n4936602

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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          Doctor Phibes
          wrote on last edited by Doctor Phibes
          #180

          The inability of people to STFU and wait for some level of actual evidence to emerge is really quite disheartening.

          Of course, the Commander in Chief has the impulse control of a 9 year old who's just raided his dad's stash of steroids, which really doesn't help.

          I was only joking

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          • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

            The inability of people to STFU and wait for some level of actual evidence to emerge is really quite disheartening.

            Of course, the Commander in Chief has the impulse control of a 9 year old who's just raided his dad's stash of steroids, which really doesn't help.

            JollyJ Offline
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            #181

            @Doctor-Phibes said in Helicopter Crash in DC:

            The inability of people to STFU and wait for some level of actual evidence to emerge is really quite disheartening.

            Of course, the Commander in Chief has the impulse control of a 9 year old who's just raided his dad's stash of steroids, which really doesn't help.

            People STFU?

            Stand at the water's edge and scream at the tide...

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • JollyJ Jolly

              @Doctor-Phibes said in Helicopter Crash in DC:

              The inability of people to STFU and wait for some level of actual evidence to emerge is really quite disheartening.

              Of course, the Commander in Chief has the impulse control of a 9 year old who's just raided his dad's stash of steroids, which really doesn't help.

              People STFU?

              Stand at the water's edge and scream at the tide...

              Doctor PhibesD Offline
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              Doctor Phibes
              wrote on last edited by
              #182

              @Jolly said in Helicopter Crash in DC:

              @Doctor-Phibes said in Helicopter Crash in DC:

              The inability of people to STFU and wait for some level of actual evidence to emerge is really quite disheartening.

              Of course, the Commander in Chief has the impulse control of a 9 year old who's just raided his dad's stash of steroids, which really doesn't help.

              People STFU?

              Stand at the water's edge and scream at the tide...

              Well, I actually meant people in positions of authority.

              As far as shouting at the sea goes, the Britons had King Cnut, now apparently we've got his anagram.

              I was only joking

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              • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                The inability of people to STFU and wait for some level of actual evidence to emerge is really quite disheartening.

                Of course, the Commander in Chief has the impulse control of a 9 year old who's just raided his dad's stash of steroids, which really doesn't help.

                89th8 Offline
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                wrote on last edited by
                #183

                @Doctor-Phibes said in Helicopter Crash in DC:

                The inability of people to STFU and wait for some level of actual evidence to emerge is really quite disheartening.

                Of course, the Commander in Chief has the impulse control of a 9 year old who's just raided his dad's stash of steroids, which really doesn't help.

                Well said. If he could just stop taking about topics he’s not informed on and/or added just a little humility and grace, he’d win so many people over.

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                  #184

                  Some details about historic DEI hiring practices, the class action lawsuits that followed, and their lingering effects on the quality and quantity of air traffic controllers:

                  There were some nuts peak-DEI things happening. 84% of applicants were discarded, regardless of qualification, if they did not "pass" a biographical questionnaire designed to target black people, and with astonishing amounts of embedded racist assumptions. One of the questions, for instance, was whether you did poorly in science class in high school. If you did, you got points. There's more.

                  Link to video

                  Education is extremely important.

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                  • LuFins DadL Offline
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                    LuFins Dad
                    wrote on last edited by LuFins Dad
                    #185

                    Aww, damn. I just found out one of our students was one of the figure skaters to die in the frigging crash. He’s been coming in on
                    Sundays for 13 years. His parents wouldn’t come in, just drop him off. He’d wait for them to pick him up and were always late. So he’d sit and play video game music until they showed up. They died, too. FFS.

                    https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/01/us/dc-plane-crash-skater-family.html

                    The Brad

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                    • 89th8 Offline
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                      89th
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #186

                      Ugh man, sorry to hear.

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                      • RichR Offline
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                        Rich
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                        #187

                        wow

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                        • jon-nycJ Offline
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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #188

                          Ugh.

                          Only non-witches get due process.

                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                            #189

                            Airline pilots received more than 100 cockpit warnings over the past decade that they were in danger of a midair collision with a helicopter near Reagan National Airport, according to flight-tracking and government incident data, a record of repeated risks compiled by air traffic controllers before the Jan. 29 crash that killed 67 people.

                            and

                            Each of the incidents reviewed by The Post triggered an automated cockpit warning advising airliner pilots to take action to avoid a collision — causing them in many cases to abort landings or change flight paths.

                            Air traffic controllers have raised concerns to managers within the FAA in the past decade — including in writing, according to two people familiar with operations at National Airport and correspondence reviewed by The Post.

                            In 2020, controllers outlined the challenges, according to the correspondence: Helicopters could be told to wait for airline traffic to pass, potentially affecting national security and police work. Changing the helicopter corridors along the river could draw noise complaints, a perennial issue around Washington. Taking no action would mean airliners would need to abort landings and conduct “go-rounds” to avoid potential collisions.

                            One proposal in recent years involved shifting a helicopter route that follows the Potomac River inland to Interstate 295, the people said. That would put it farther from the approach to National Airport’s Runway 33. The route was not changed: The current description for Route 4, the path flown by the Black Hawk helicopter involved in the collision last month, is word-for-word the same as it was in 2012.

                            https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/02/13/dca-airport-crash-warnings-helicopters-airliner/

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                            • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                              Airline pilots received more than 100 cockpit warnings over the past decade that they were in danger of a midair collision with a helicopter near Reagan National Airport, according to flight-tracking and government incident data, a record of repeated risks compiled by air traffic controllers before the Jan. 29 crash that killed 67 people.

                              and

                              Each of the incidents reviewed by The Post triggered an automated cockpit warning advising airliner pilots to take action to avoid a collision — causing them in many cases to abort landings or change flight paths.

                              Air traffic controllers have raised concerns to managers within the FAA in the past decade — including in writing, according to two people familiar with operations at National Airport and correspondence reviewed by The Post.

                              In 2020, controllers outlined the challenges, according to the correspondence: Helicopters could be told to wait for airline traffic to pass, potentially affecting national security and police work. Changing the helicopter corridors along the river could draw noise complaints, a perennial issue around Washington. Taking no action would mean airliners would need to abort landings and conduct “go-rounds” to avoid potential collisions.

                              One proposal in recent years involved shifting a helicopter route that follows the Potomac River inland to Interstate 295, the people said. That would put it farther from the approach to National Airport’s Runway 33. The route was not changed: The current description for Route 4, the path flown by the Black Hawk helicopter involved in the collision last month, is word-for-word the same as it was in 2012.

                              https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/02/13/dca-airport-crash-warnings-helicopters-airliner/

                              CopperC Online
                              CopperC Online
                              Copper
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #190

                              @taiwan_girl said in Helicopter Crash in DC:

                              more than 100 cockpit warnings over the past decade that they were in danger of a midair collision

                              That is a busy weekend at a General Aviation airport.

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