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Piano upgrade time

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    NobodySock
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    Shigeru SK7 still my top desire to testdrive and was speaking to one of the salesmen yesterday and explained my situation with Sardinia and he suggested that I might do better finding Shigeru's in Europe for cheaper as they have to compete against all the German pianos over there. But no Kawai dealer in Italy, closest is Spain. He said though that the SK7 they have on the floor is pretty much new that was sold and shortly given back and is Shigeru's 3rd generation piano and that I might be amazed at the price they will give me.

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      Fun to have a piano quest thread again. Are you sure your place in Sardinia has room for a 7'+ piano?

      "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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      • N NobodySock

        I really was hoping to find a Bluthner dealer there but alas only in LA. Have been keen on their sound lately. But to be able to touch finally Mason Hamlin, Estonia, Grotian, Bosendorfer , Shigeru, C Bechstein, and Sautre all in one day could be sensory overload as it is.

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        @NobodySock said in Piano upgrade time:

        But to be able to touch finally Mason Hamlin, Estonia, Grotian, Bosendorfer , Shigeru, C Bechstein, and Sautre all in one day could be sensory overload as it is.

        A fun day, for sure. But I think you are correct in your statement. If you try and do too many in one day, it becomes difficult to separate them. I think you need to take some detailed notes immediately after playing each one.

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          I'm enjoying your quest from the safety of my living room. I'm not as excited about the modern Bluthner pianos. I've played all of the pianos you're trying. An exceptional instrument by any one of them could work for me - but generally I'm inclined toward a Hamburg S&S or Bosie. I've not played many Faziolis - so they might win the day as well.

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            I'm enjoying your quest from the safety of my living room. I'm not as excited about the modern Bluthner pianos. I've played all of the pianos you're trying. An exceptional instrument by any one of them could work for me - but generally I'm inclined toward a Hamburg S&S or Bosie. I've not played many Faziolis - so they might win the day as well.

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            @kluurs said in Piano upgrade time:

            Hamburg S&S or Bosie

            I think they are so different that one cannot love both. It's either or.

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              @kluurs said in Piano upgrade time:

              Hamburg S&S or Bosie

              I think they are so different that one cannot love both. It's either or.

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              @Klaus said in Piano upgrade time:

              @kluurs said in Piano upgrade time:

              Hamburg S&S or Bosie

              I think they are so different that one cannot love both. It's either or.

              Yeah - I understand - which is why I'd like both.

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              • kluursK kluurs

                @Klaus said in Piano upgrade time:

                @kluurs said in Piano upgrade time:

                Hamburg S&S or Bosie

                I think they are so different that one cannot love both. It's either or.

                Yeah - I understand - which is why I'd like both.

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                @kluurs Is this really Kenny?

                "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                • N NobodySock

                  Shigeru SK7 still my top desire to testdrive and was speaking to one of the salesmen yesterday and explained my situation with Sardinia and he suggested that I might do better finding Shigeru's in Europe for cheaper as they have to compete against all the German pianos over there. But no Kawai dealer in Italy, closest is Spain. He said though that the SK7 they have on the floor is pretty much new that was sold and shortly given back and is Shigeru's 3rd generation piano and that I might be amazed at the price they will give me.

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                  Wim
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                  #124

                  @NobodySock check Saccuman in Bolzano or Alfonsi pianoforti in Rome.

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                    You are really going to drive yourself to paralysis by analysis. 1) write down what it is you are looking for from your piano, remembering there is no perfect piano. Have a realistic expectation for what you want… Tonality, sustain, voicing, power/dynamic range….2) then research which of the pianos best fit the characteristics you are looking for. Narrow it down to 3 initial brands. Test the three, write down your impressions, what you liked and what you disliked. Visit the 3 pianos again a few days later and reassess. 3) After that, consider if you want to try 2 different brands that may offer something that the three you tried didn’t offer.

                    Finally, don’t spend tens of thousands of dollars in actual money or time in fretting over saving $5,000 in actual money.

                    The Brad

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                      #126

                      Good advice

                      Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                      • kluursK kluurs

                        I'm enjoying your quest from the safety of my living room. I'm not as excited about the modern Bluthner pianos. I've played all of the pianos you're trying. An exceptional instrument by any one of them could work for me - but generally I'm inclined toward a Hamburg S&S or Bosie. I've not played many Faziolis - so they might win the day as well.

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                        @kluurs said in Piano upgrade time:

                        I'm enjoying your quest from the safety of my living room. I'm not as excited about the modern Bluthner pianos. I've played all of the pianos you're trying. An exceptional instrument by any one of them could work for me - but generally I'm inclined toward a Hamburg S&S or Bosie. I've not played many Faziolis - so they might win the day as well.

                        Which Bosie? One of the more traditional 225/200 or one of the new VC series)

                        The Brad

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                        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                          @kluurs said in Piano upgrade time:

                          I'm enjoying your quest from the safety of my living room. I'm not as excited about the modern Bluthner pianos. I've played all of the pianos you're trying. An exceptional instrument by any one of them could work for me - but generally I'm inclined toward a Hamburg S&S or Bosie. I've not played many Faziolis - so they might win the day as well.

                          Which Bosie? One of the more traditional 225/200 or one of the new VC series)

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                          @LuFins-Dad said in Piano upgrade time:

                          @kluurs said in Piano upgrade time:

                          I'm enjoying your quest from the safety of my living room. I'm not as excited about the modern Bluthner pianos. I've played all of the pianos you're trying. An exceptional instrument by any one of them could work for me - but generally I'm inclined toward a Hamburg S&S or Bosie. I've not played many Faziolis - so they might win the day as well.

                          Which Bosie? One of the more traditional 225/200 or one of the new VC series)

                          I'd probably lean toward the VCs - but I'd play the field to see if one hit me right. I'm a piano-slut. I've fallen in love with a couple of nice Yamahas, a Bosendorfer 280VC, and a really nice B at Klavierhaus years ago, and a Baldwin SD10 long ago. I've never particularly been in love with any Bechsteins or new Bluthners - sorry, Kenny. I've liked but not loved M&H and the 3 Faziolis I've played.

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                            This reminds me of going winery hopping in Virginia. The first wine always tastes the best, until I try the wine at the next place. Eventually I wake up the next morning with a monthly wine subscription and red stained lips. Moral of the story? Start with red but end with white.

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                              I am sober right now and actually have no idea what that has to do with pianos.

                              Oh yeah now I remember.... I have no idea how you can compare one piano to another, but good luck! A fun adventure, a lucky one to have.

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