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Piano upgrade time

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  • N NobodySock

    Shigeru SK7 still my top desire to testdrive and was speaking to one of the salesmen yesterday and explained my situation with Sardinia and he suggested that I might do better finding Shigeru's in Europe for cheaper as they have to compete against all the German pianos over there. But no Kawai dealer in Italy, closest is Spain. He said though that the SK7 they have on the floor is pretty much new that was sold and shortly given back and is Shigeru's 3rd generation piano and that I might be amazed at the price they will give me.

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    Wim
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    @NobodySock check Saccuman in Bolzano or Alfonsi pianoforti in Rome.

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      You are really going to drive yourself to paralysis by analysis. 1) write down what it is you are looking for from your piano, remembering there is no perfect piano. Have a realistic expectation for what you want… Tonality, sustain, voicing, power/dynamic range….2) then research which of the pianos best fit the characteristics you are looking for. Narrow it down to 3 initial brands. Test the three, write down your impressions, what you liked and what you disliked. Visit the 3 pianos again a few days later and reassess. 3) After that, consider if you want to try 2 different brands that may offer something that the three you tried didn’t offer.

      Finally, don’t spend tens of thousands of dollars in actual money or time in fretting over saving $5,000 in actual money.

      The Brad

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        Good advice

        If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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        • kluursK kluurs

          I'm enjoying your quest from the safety of my living room. I'm not as excited about the modern Bluthner pianos. I've played all of the pianos you're trying. An exceptional instrument by any one of them could work for me - but generally I'm inclined toward a Hamburg S&S or Bosie. I've not played many Faziolis - so they might win the day as well.

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          @kluurs said in Piano upgrade time:

          I'm enjoying your quest from the safety of my living room. I'm not as excited about the modern Bluthner pianos. I've played all of the pianos you're trying. An exceptional instrument by any one of them could work for me - but generally I'm inclined toward a Hamburg S&S or Bosie. I've not played many Faziolis - so they might win the day as well.

          Which Bosie? One of the more traditional 225/200 or one of the new VC series)

          The Brad

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          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

            @kluurs said in Piano upgrade time:

            I'm enjoying your quest from the safety of my living room. I'm not as excited about the modern Bluthner pianos. I've played all of the pianos you're trying. An exceptional instrument by any one of them could work for me - but generally I'm inclined toward a Hamburg S&S or Bosie. I've not played many Faziolis - so they might win the day as well.

            Which Bosie? One of the more traditional 225/200 or one of the new VC series)

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            @LuFins-Dad said in Piano upgrade time:

            @kluurs said in Piano upgrade time:

            I'm enjoying your quest from the safety of my living room. I'm not as excited about the modern Bluthner pianos. I've played all of the pianos you're trying. An exceptional instrument by any one of them could work for me - but generally I'm inclined toward a Hamburg S&S or Bosie. I've not played many Faziolis - so they might win the day as well.

            Which Bosie? One of the more traditional 225/200 or one of the new VC series)

            I'd probably lean toward the VCs - but I'd play the field to see if one hit me right. I'm a piano-slut. I've fallen in love with a couple of nice Yamahas, a Bosendorfer 280VC, and a really nice B at Klavierhaus years ago, and a Baldwin SD10 long ago. I've never particularly been in love with any Bechsteins or new Bluthners - sorry, Kenny. I've liked but not loved M&H and the 3 Faziolis I've played.

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              This reminds me of going winery hopping in Virginia. The first wine always tastes the best, until I try the wine at the next place. Eventually I wake up the next morning with a monthly wine subscription and red stained lips. Moral of the story? Start with red but end with white.

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                I am sober right now and actually have no idea what that has to do with pianos.

                Oh yeah now I remember.... I have no idea how you can compare one piano to another, but good luck! A fun adventure, a lucky one to have.

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                  #131

                  Sorry I haven’t posted any updates on this piano hunt but things have taken priority and lost my 17-year-old girl Bella last week it just gets tougher every time you lose one. Anyways, I have resolved to just wait until I get there and take a trip to Rome and see what they got and start feeling out The European continent for my forever piano which will probably be used.

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                    I have possible good news in that I’ve taken on a new piano teacher. She’s an Armenian lady about my age. Who’s a former concert pianist and is very good friends with Sergei Babayan who still has played the best recital I have witnessed. When she heard I was selling my pet rod, her eyes grew and she says she wants to buy it for her son. Petrof is a well known brand in Eastern Europe. I asked her last lesson what the predominant brand was on the floor for performances in the countries of East Europe, asking if Steinway was ubiquitous over there as well and she said that the number one brand that appears over there is Bluthner

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                      I think you’ll be better off buying there. Good call.

                      If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                        And then let us know when the piano party is.

                        If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                          I bet I can round up more players here in the backwoods of Italy then you can New York City

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                          • N NobodySock

                            I have possible good news in that I’ve taken on a new piano teacher. She’s an Armenian lady about my age. Who’s a former concert pianist and is very good friends with Sergei Babayan who still has played the best recital I have witnessed. When she heard I was selling my pet rod, her eyes grew and she says she wants to buy it for her son. Petrof is a well known brand in Eastern Europe. I asked her last lesson what the predominant brand was on the floor for performances in the countries of East Europe, asking if Steinway was ubiquitous over there as well and she said that the number one brand that appears over there is Bluthner

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                            @NobodySock said in Piano upgrade time:

                            I have possible good news in that I’ve taken on a new piano teacher. She’s an Armenian lady about my age. Who’s a former concert pianist and is very good friends with Sergei Babayan who still has played the best recital I have witnessed. When she heard I was selling my pet rod, her eyes grew and she says she wants to buy it for her son. Petrof is a well known brand in Eastern Europe. I asked her last lesson what the predominant brand was on the floor for performances in the countries of East Europe, asking if Steinway was ubiquitous over there as well and she said that the number one brand that appears over there is Bluthner

                            Those would probably be old pre 1989 Blüthner's from the time when it was part of the GDR.

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                            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                              I think you’ll be better off buying there. Good call.

                              MikM Away
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                              @jon-nyc said in Piano upgrade time:

                              I think you’ll be better off buying there. Good call.

                              I agree. A whole lot of bad things can happen in transcontinental shipping.

                              "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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