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Piano upgrade time

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  • LuFins DadL Offline
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    LuFins Dad
    wrote last edited by LuFins Dad
    #108

    A player system on a used grand piano lowers the resale value. So does a wood finish. (Sorry red piano club!). The higher the level of piano, the more it lowers the value.

    The Brad

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      The Bosie 225 listed for $50K would have a higher interest for me.

      The Brad

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      • LuFins DadL Offline
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        #110

        The hours the piano have been played are kind of irrelevant in determining the value (to an extent). What matters is number of owners. You can buy a new car with 1000 demo miles on it and it’s still new. Somebody could order a new car at 0 miles, drive it 500 and resell it, it’s still a used car and if lower value than the new listed above.

        Beyond that, the piano likely sat on the floor for 2 years from 21-23 and was demoed and played many times. If it had the system already installed, the. It had even more play. If the customer bought the piano then had the system installed, then less.

        The Brad

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          #111

          That Bosie has Ivory keys and reading EU regs, it will not pass customs. Pre 1975 pianos generally are allowed as well as any established artist who owns one. But even without that being said, 1989 bosie vs 2000 shigeru with player, assuming no real work was done on bosie, that would be your first look? I emailed owner of the shigeru and asked him the pertinent question you brought up. Nice pickup on the possibility it sat on a floor for years running the player. I also asked if i could have an rpt come check it out. The bosie now, that’s only in LA and not Louisville so there is that to consider as well. Well actually not because of the dammed ivory Thanks LD.

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            NobodySock
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            Can anyone speak about Lindeblad Piano? Todd Lindeblad and I spoke about a 1970 Baldwin sd10 9 ft grand he has waiting for someone to put money down for him to start the restore. He sounded like a good dude and just wondering if anyone is familiar with his work?

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              #113

              Not me.

              Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                NobodySock
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                #114

                Today I am going piano crawling. To the Bay Area. Looks like 5 stores on the route,
                Rkassman piano in Berkely has yamaha, kawai, bosendorfer, schimmel, mason hamlin, estonia, grotian, steingraeber.
                San Mateo Piano has Shigeru Kawai
                Colton Piano in San Jose has Mason Hamlin Sauter
                Music Exchange San Jose has Bosendorfer Yamaha
                Southbay Piano in San Jose is affiliate of San Mateo piano and has a hardly used big Sauter I am told I must try
                Silicon Valley Piano has C Bechstein.
                I think that's enough for one day. Will report back soon.

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                  Nice. Have fun!

                  Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                    NobodySock
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                    I really was hoping to find a Bluthner dealer there but alas only in LA. Have been keen on their sound lately. But to be able to touch finally Mason Hamlin, Estonia, Grotian, Bosendorfer , Shigeru, C Bechstein, and Sautre all in one day could be sensory overload as it is.

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                      Shigeru SK7 still my top desire to testdrive and was speaking to one of the salesmen yesterday and explained my situation with Sardinia and he suggested that I might do better finding Shigeru's in Europe for cheaper as they have to compete against all the German pianos over there. But no Kawai dealer in Italy, closest is Spain. He said though that the SK7 they have on the floor is pretty much new that was sold and shortly given back and is Shigeru's 3rd generation piano and that I might be amazed at the price they will give me.

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                      • MikM Away
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                        #118

                        Fun to have a piano quest thread again. Are you sure your place in Sardinia has room for a 7'+ piano?

                        "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                        • N NobodySock

                          I really was hoping to find a Bluthner dealer there but alas only in LA. Have been keen on their sound lately. But to be able to touch finally Mason Hamlin, Estonia, Grotian, Bosendorfer , Shigeru, C Bechstein, and Sautre all in one day could be sensory overload as it is.

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                          @NobodySock said in Piano upgrade time:

                          But to be able to touch finally Mason Hamlin, Estonia, Grotian, Bosendorfer , Shigeru, C Bechstein, and Sautre all in one day could be sensory overload as it is.

                          A fun day, for sure. But I think you are correct in your statement. If you try and do too many in one day, it becomes difficult to separate them. I think you need to take some detailed notes immediately after playing each one.

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                            I'm enjoying your quest from the safety of my living room. I'm not as excited about the modern Bluthner pianos. I've played all of the pianos you're trying. An exceptional instrument by any one of them could work for me - but generally I'm inclined toward a Hamburg S&S or Bosie. I've not played many Faziolis - so they might win the day as well.

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                            • kluursK kluurs

                              I'm enjoying your quest from the safety of my living room. I'm not as excited about the modern Bluthner pianos. I've played all of the pianos you're trying. An exceptional instrument by any one of them could work for me - but generally I'm inclined toward a Hamburg S&S or Bosie. I've not played many Faziolis - so they might win the day as well.

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                              @kluurs said in Piano upgrade time:

                              Hamburg S&S or Bosie

                              I think they are so different that one cannot love both. It's either or.

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                                @kluurs said in Piano upgrade time:

                                Hamburg S&S or Bosie

                                I think they are so different that one cannot love both. It's either or.

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                                kluurs
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                                @Klaus said in Piano upgrade time:

                                @kluurs said in Piano upgrade time:

                                Hamburg S&S or Bosie

                                I think they are so different that one cannot love both. It's either or.

                                Yeah - I understand - which is why I'd like both.

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