On the Paki rape gangs in the UK.
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@George-K said in On the Paki rape gangs in the UK.:
Everything I've seen in the last few weeks indicates this is a chronic, deep, problem.
Yeah, it could well be, however there’s also some politics going on, which is why I suspect it’s suddenly become a hot topic now. Hopefully we’ll find out what’s actually been going on.
The idea that this is new is completely bogus. There was an enquiry and my understanding is that the previous government failed to act on any of its recommendations.
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I'm sick to fucking death of tiptoeing around to avoid being called racist or whateverphobic. No one ever calls out blacks here for their own racism, which runs a damn sight deeper than any I might have. Respecting positive cultural facets is one thing. Turning a blind eye to evil, deeply harmful is quite another.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in On the Paki rape gangs in the UK.
The idea that this is new is completely bogus. There was an enquiry and my understanding is that the previous government failed to act on any of its recommendations.
I don’t think anyone thinks it’s new. Part of the scandal is how it was quickly swept under the rug after Rotherham and how the authorities that downplayed it and enabled it were never brought to account. And according to Sullivan, that enquiry omitted the worst towns.
This is basically the Catholic Church scandal redux. Except it’s a different institution that people held sacred enough to get away with mass rape of children (‘miulticulturism’ vs Catholicism).
When you shake someone's deep sense of self-worth, leaving a scar in their ego, they will persistently try to diminish you through petty arguments & obsessive captious criticism of your actions, just to soothe the wound.
- Nassim Nicholas Taleb
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@jon-nyc said in On the Paki rape gangs in the UK.:
This is basically the Catholic Church scandal redux.
Britain seems to be rather over-achieving in that regard recently...
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cly2714wgdno
Archbishop of Canterbury Mr Welby resigned over the Church's handling of the sadistic abuser, John Smyth, who a recently published report said perpetrated brutal sexual, physical and mental abuse against more than 120 boys and young men since the late 1970s.
The report said Mr Welby had "personal and moral responsibility" and that he "could and should have done more" in the case.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cly2714wgdno
Former Archbishop of Canterbury George Carey has quit his service as a Church of England priest after a BBC investigation revealed he had advocated for an alleged child abuser to return to priesthood.
David Tudor was banned by the Church for five years in the 1980s, over allegations of assault against teenage girls, but Lord Carey later allowed him to return under supervision.
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I quoted from Sullivans piece. In it he compares the two scandals. He, a practicing catholic, describes his own reaction when he learned of it. He recalled the story of a priest that worked at a home for deaf kids.
The priest specifically targeted boys whose parents he knew didn’t know sign language. If that’s not calculated evil I don’t know what would qualify.
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@jon-nyc said in On the Paki rape gangs in the UK.:
I don’t think anyone thinks it’s new. Part of the scandal is how it was quickly swept under the rug after Rotherham and how the authorities that downplayed it and enabled it were never brought to account. And according to Sullivan, that enquiry omitted the worst towns.
He also noted the politics involved. He said Musk has an ongoing campaign to bring down the British PM.
So much for complaining about interference in other people's domestic politics.
And once again, the government that failed to implement any of the recommendations of the enquiry was the previous Conservative one, that was in power for 14 long years. They're now all over the issue after losing the last election.
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When you shake someone's deep sense of self-worth, leaving a scar in their ego, they will persistently try to diminish you through petty arguments & obsessive captious criticism of your actions, just to soothe the wound.
- Nassim Nicholas Taleb
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@jon-nyc said in On the Paki rape gangs in the UK.:
All the more reason the current government should have done a full blown inquiry. Cage whomever needs to be caged. WGAF about party affiliation.
They are saying there was an enquiry. And the current government has been in power for 6 months. Not 14 years.
Interestingly, Andy Burnham, the Labour mayor of Greater Manchester, is asking for one.
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When you shake someone's deep sense of self-worth, leaving a scar in their ego, they will persistently try to diminish you through petty arguments & obsessive captious criticism of your actions, just to soothe the wound.
- Nassim Nicholas Taleb
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@jon-nyc said in On the Paki rape gangs in the UK.:
Was there an enquiry? Or something more like a whitewash of the behavior of authorities.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy4ynzppk80o
Prof Jay described the abuse as "appalling". She found children had been raped by multiple attackers, trafficked to other towns and cities in the north of England, abducted and beaten.
Some were doused in petrol and threatened with being set alight, while others were threatened with guns, made to watch "brutally violent rapes" and warned they would be next if they told anyone.
In just over a third of cases, the victims were previously known to social services because of child protection and neglect issues.
Prof Jay wrote in her report: "By far the majority of perpetrators were described as 'Asian' by victims, yet throughout the entire period, councillors did not engage directly with the Pakistani-heritage community to discuss how best they could jointly address the issue.
"Some councillors seemed to think it was a one-off problem, which they hoped would go away."
She added some council staff described their nervousness about identifying the ethnic origins of perpetrators for fear of being thought racist; others remembered clear direction from their managers not to do so.
The report found there had been "blatant" collective failures by the council's leadership, a failure by South Yorkshire Police to prioritise the issue and said senior managers had "underplayed" the scale of the problem.
https://committees.parliament.uk/work/1954/jay-report-into-child-sexual-exploitation-in-rotherham/
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@89th said in On the Paki rape gangs in the UK.:
Regarding the pie charts.
What in the bloody hell is the "Wheat, Central, Receiver, Chalic Engage, and Span Operations" and why do they have data?
I'm a clever bloke, me....they were police operations into various rings - Chalic should read 'Chalice'
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@jon-nyc said in On the Paki rape gangs in the UK.:
Also didn’t the current government just vote not to do a full enquiry?
I just looked into that, and the reason that was voted down was that it was requested as an amendment to a different piece of legislation which is aimed at providing child protection, and so would have meant that that bill was not passed. More politics, IOW.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/clyvy4q82l9o
Apparently, the Labour MP for Rotherham has now backed a full enquiry, so who knows?
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@Doctor-Phibes Ahh good find! Scotland Yard could use someone like you.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in On the Paki rape gangs in the UK.:
the Labour MP for Rotherham has now backed a full enquiry
This?
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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@George-K said in On the Paki rape gangs in the UK.:
@Doctor-Phibes said in On the Paki rape gangs in the UK.:
the Labour MP for Rotherham has now backed a full enquiry
This?
No, that’s somebody else entirely. He’s also not the most reliable witness as he was kicked out of the Labour Party for exchanging sexual texts with a 17 year old girl, and then ran as a Reform candidate under Nigel Farage.
