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  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

    @Doctor-Phibes said in On the Paki rape gangs in the UK.šŸ˜†

    The idea that this is new is completely bogus. There was an enquiry and my understanding is that the previous government failed to act on any of its recommendations.

    I don’t think anyone thinks it’s new. Part of the scandal is how it was quickly swept under the rug after Rotherham and how the authorities that downplayed it and enabled it were never brought to account. And according to Sullivan, that enquiry omitted the worst towns.

    This is basically the Catholic Church scandal redux. Except it’s a different institution that people held sacred enough to get away with mass rape of children (ā€˜miulticulturism’ vs Catholicism).

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    @jon-nyc said in On the Paki rape gangs in the UK.:

    This is basically the Catholic Church scandal redux.

    Britain seems to be rather over-achieving in that regard recently...

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cly2714wgdno

    Archbishop of Canterbury Mr Welby resigned over the Church's handling of the sadistic abuser, John Smyth, who a recently published report said perpetrated brutal sexual, physical and mental abuse against more than 120 boys and young men since the late 1970s.

    The report said Mr Welby had "personal and moral responsibility" and that he "could and should have done more" in the case.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cly2714wgdno

    Former Archbishop of Canterbury George Carey has quit his service as a Church of England priest after a BBC investigation revealed he had advocated for an alleged child abuser to return to priesthood.

    David Tudor was banned by the Church for five years in the 1980s, over allegations of assault against teenage girls, but Lord Carey later allowed him to return under supervision.

    I was only joking

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      I quoted from Sullivans piece. In it he compares the two scandals. He, a practicing catholic, describes his own reaction when he learned of it. He recalled the story of a priest that worked at a home for deaf kids.

      The priest specifically targeted boys whose parents he knew didn’t know sign language. If that’s not calculated evil I don’t know what would qualify.

      Only non-witches get due process.

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        Like I said, lots of cultures.

        Actually, that's not quite right. The cultures don't necessarily as a whole condone such things, but there is a tendency to sweep them under the rug.

        ā€œI am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.ā€ ~Winston S. Churchill

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          One X commenter said something like ā€˜you can tell who a society holds sacred. They’re the ones who are allowed to get away with raping children’

          Only non-witches get due process.

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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            @Doctor-Phibes said in On the Paki rape gangs in the UK.šŸ˜†

            The idea that this is new is completely bogus. There was an enquiry and my understanding is that the previous government failed to act on any of its recommendations.

            I don’t think anyone thinks it’s new. Part of the scandal is how it was quickly swept under the rug after Rotherham and how the authorities that downplayed it and enabled it were never brought to account. And according to Sullivan, that enquiry omitted the worst towns.

            This is basically the Catholic Church scandal redux. Except it’s a different institution that people held sacred enough to get away with mass rape of children (ā€˜miulticulturism’ vs Catholicism).

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            @jon-nyc said in On the Paki rape gangs in the UK.:

            I don’t think anyone thinks it’s new. Part of the scandal is how it was quickly swept under the rug after Rotherham and how the authorities that downplayed it and enabled it were never brought to account. And according to Sullivan, that enquiry omitted the worst towns.

            He also noted the politics involved. He said Musk has an ongoing campaign to bring down the British PM.

            So much for complaining about interference in other people's domestic politics.

            And once again, the government that failed to implement any of the recommendations of the enquiry was the previous Conservative one, that was in power for 14 long years. They're now all over the issue after losing the last election.

            I was only joking

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              All the more reason the current government should have done a full blown inquiry. Cage whomever needs to be caged. WGAF about party affiliation.

              Only non-witches get due process.

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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                All the more reason the current government should have done a full blown inquiry. Cage whomever needs to be caged. WGAF about party affiliation.

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                @jon-nyc said in On the Paki rape gangs in the UK.:

                All the more reason the current government should have done a full blown inquiry. Cage whomever needs to be caged. WGAF about party affiliation.

                They are saying there was an enquiry. And the current government has been in power for 6 months. Not 14 years.

                Interestingly, Andy Burnham, the Labour mayor of Greater Manchester, is asking for one.

                I was only joking

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                  Was there an enquiry? Or something more like a whitewash of the behavior of authorities.

                  Also didn’t the current government just vote not to do a full enquiry?

                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                    Was there an enquiry? Or something more like a whitewash of the behavior of authorities.

                    Also didn’t the current government just vote not to do a full enquiry?

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                    @jon-nyc said in On the Paki rape gangs in the UK.:

                    Was there an enquiry? Or something more like a whitewash of the behavior of authorities.

                    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy4ynzppk80o

                    Prof Jay described the abuse as "appalling". She found children had been raped by multiple attackers, trafficked to other towns and cities in the north of England, abducted and beaten.

                    Some were doused in petrol and threatened with being set alight, while others were threatened with guns, made to watch "brutally violent rapes" and warned they would be next if they told anyone.

                    In just over a third of cases, the victims were previously known to social services because of child protection and neglect issues.

                    Prof Jay wrote in her report: "By far the majority of perpetrators were described as 'Asian' by victims, yet throughout the entire period, councillors did not engage directly with the Pakistani-heritage community to discuss how best they could jointly address the issue.

                    "Some councillors seemed to think it was a one-off problem, which they hoped would go away."

                    She added some council staff described their nervousness about identifying the ethnic origins of perpetrators for fear of being thought racist; others remembered clear direction from their managers not to do so.

                    The report found there had been "blatant" collective failures by the council's leadership, a failure by South Yorkshire Police to prioritise the issue and said senior managers had "underplayed" the scale of the problem.

                    https://committees.parliament.uk/work/1954/jay-report-into-child-sexual-exploitation-in-rotherham/

                    I was only joking

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                    • George KG George K

                      The victims:

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                      The perps:

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                      @George-K

                      Regarding the pie charts.

                      What in the bloody hell is the "Wheat, Central, Receiver, Chalic Engage, and Span Operations" and why do they have data?

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                        @George-K

                        Regarding the pie charts.

                        What in the bloody hell is the "Wheat, Central, Receiver, Chalic Engage, and Span Operations" and why do they have data?

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                        @89th said in On the Paki rape gangs in the UK.:

                        @George-K

                        Regarding the pie charts.

                        What in the bloody hell is the "Wheat, Central, Receiver, Chalic Engage, and Span Operations" and why do they have data?

                        I'm a clever bloke, me....they were police operations into various rings - Chalic should read 'Chalice'

                        445f1318-78a2-4ca1-9fdb-8418fa67cff7-image.png

                        I was only joking

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                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                          Was there an enquiry? Or something more like a whitewash of the behavior of authorities.

                          Also didn’t the current government just vote not to do a full enquiry?

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                          @jon-nyc said in On the Paki rape gangs in the UK.:

                          Also didn’t the current government just vote not to do a full enquiry?

                          I just looked into that, and the reason that was voted down was that it was requested as an amendment to a different piece of legislation which is aimed at providing child protection, and so would have meant that that bill was not passed. More politics, IOW.

                          https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/clyvy4q82l9o

                          Apparently, the Labour MP for Rotherham has now backed a full enquiry, so who knows?

                          I was only joking

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                            @89th said in On the Paki rape gangs in the UK.:

                            @George-K

                            Regarding the pie charts.

                            What in the bloody hell is the "Wheat, Central, Receiver, Chalic Engage, and Span Operations" and why do they have data?

                            I'm a clever bloke, me....they were police operations into various rings - Chalic should read 'Chalice'

                            445f1318-78a2-4ca1-9fdb-8418fa67cff7-image.png

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                            @Doctor-Phibes Ahh good find! Scotland Yard could use someone like you.

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                              @jon-nyc said in On the Paki rape gangs in the UK.:

                              Also didn’t the current government just vote not to do a full enquiry?

                              I just looked into that, and the reason that was voted down was that it was requested as an amendment to a different piece of legislation which is aimed at providing child protection, and so would have meant that that bill was not passed. More politics, IOW.

                              https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/clyvy4q82l9o

                              Apparently, the Labour MP for Rotherham has now backed a full enquiry, so who knows?

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                              @Doctor-Phibes said in On the Paki rape gangs in the UK.:

                              the Labour MP for Rotherham has now backed a full enquiry

                              This?

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              • George KG George K

                                @Doctor-Phibes said in On the Paki rape gangs in the UK.:

                                the Labour MP for Rotherham has now backed a full enquiry

                                This?

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                                @George-K said in On the Paki rape gangs in the UK.:

                                @Doctor-Phibes said in On the Paki rape gangs in the UK.:

                                the Labour MP for Rotherham has now backed a full enquiry

                                This?

                                No, that’s somebody else entirely. He’s also not the most reliable witness as he was kicked out of the Labour Party for exchanging sexual texts with a 17 year old girl, and then ran as a Reform candidate under Nigel Farage.

                                I was only joking

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