Skip to content
  • Categories
  • Recent
  • Tags
  • Popular
  • Users
  • Groups
Skins
  • Light
  • Cerulean
  • Cosmo
  • Flatly
  • Journal
  • Litera
  • Lumen
  • Lux
  • Materia
  • Minty
  • Morph
  • Pulse
  • Sandstone
  • Simplex
  • Sketchy
  • Spacelab
  • United
  • Yeti
  • Zephyr
  • Dark
  • Cyborg
  • Darkly
  • Quartz
  • Slate
  • Solar
  • Superhero
  • Vapor

  • Default (No Skin)
  • No Skin
Collapse

The New Coffee Room

  1. TNCR
  2. General Discussion
  3. Glad the free speech folks are in charge

Glad the free speech folks are in charge

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved General Discussion
236 Posts 15 Posters 6.5k Views
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

    She would have imagine because there’s no evidence that there was any.

    I’m old enough to remember 2018 and it was definitely an environment where a major tv broadcaster would fire someone comparing a prominent black woman to an ape. Even without any government intervention.

    Also, can anyone really imagine the Trump administration pressuring ABC to fire her? Over a tweet about Valerie Jarret?

    ABC canceled her show the same day as her tweet. My guess is the only calls they received in the interim were from Proctor & Gamble and Anheiser Busch.

    Doctor PhibesD Offline
    Doctor PhibesD Offline
    Doctor Phibes
    wrote last edited by
    #182

    @jon-nyc said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:

    She would have imagine because there’s no evidence that there was any.

    I’m old enough to remember 2018 and it was definitely an environment where a major tv broadcaster would fire someone comparing a prominent black woman to an ape. Even without any government intervention.

    Hang on a minute, my Google seems to be acting up. Who exactly was President in 2018?

    I was only joking

    1 Reply Last reply
    • jon-nycJ Online
      jon-nycJ Online
      jon-nyc
      wrote last edited by
      #183

      I since edited the post. @Doctor-Phibes

      Thank you for your attention to this matter.

      1 Reply Last reply
      • LuFins DadL Offline
        LuFins DadL Offline
        LuFins Dad
        wrote last edited by
        #184

        What I find funny is the administration at the time would have been Trump…

        But there has been plenty enough examples over the years from the left that I find the pearl clutching disingenuous and a little amusing.

        The Brad

        HoraceH jon-nycJ 2 Replies Last reply
        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

          What I find funny is the administration at the time would have been Trump…

          But there has been plenty enough examples over the years from the left that I find the pearl clutching disingenuous and a little amusing.

          HoraceH Online
          HoraceH Online
          Horace
          wrote last edited by Horace
          #185

          @LuFins-Dad said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:

          What I find funny is the administration at the time would have been Trump…

          But there has been plenty enough examples over the years from the left that I find the pearl clutching disingenuous and a little amusing.

          It would be ruled unconstitutional after it got to SCOTUS anyway. Which I expect it would, in very short order.

          Education is extremely important.

          1 Reply Last reply
          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

            What I find funny is the administration at the time would have been Trump…

            But there has been plenty enough examples over the years from the left that I find the pearl clutching disingenuous and a little amusing.

            jon-nycJ Online
            jon-nycJ Online
            jon-nyc
            wrote last edited by
            #186

            @LuFins-Dad said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:

            What I find funny is the administration at the time would have been Trump…

            But there has been plenty enough examples over the years from the left that I find the pearl clutching disingenuous and a little amusing.

            Seems like the President and FCC chair threatening to pull their broadcast license is new, and relevant. Especially from a president who has made it clear he doesn’t believe in free speech at all.

            Thank you for your attention to this matter.

            1 Reply Last reply
            • jon-nycJ Online
              jon-nycJ Online
              jon-nyc
              wrote last edited by jon-nyc
              #187

              This aged like Kristi Noem’s dog.

              IMG_7801.jpeg

              Thank you for your attention to this matter.

              1 Reply Last reply
              • 89th8 Online
                89th8 Online
                89th
                wrote last edited by
                #188

                You know, I don't really care in that it doesn't affect anything in my life, but at a broad level holy shit this should be so alarming to everyone in the country. Not the first time I've thought that phrase, especially since January 2025.

                HoraceH LuFins DadL 2 Replies Last reply
                • 89th8 89th

                  You know, I don't really care in that it doesn't affect anything in my life, but at a broad level holy shit this should be so alarming to everyone in the country. Not the first time I've thought that phrase, especially since January 2025.

                  HoraceH Online
                  HoraceH Online
                  Horace
                  wrote last edited by
                  #189

                  @89th said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:

                  You know, I don't really care in that it doesn't affect anything in my life, but at a broad level holy shit this should be so alarming to everyone in the country. Not the first time I've thought that phrase, especially since January 2025.

                  I think I can safely say that I would be content with the own-goal by the administration I hated, and with the 100% expectation of SCOTUS overturning their attempt (if it got to that). But yes I would note that "this is why I hate them".

                  Education is extremely important.

                  1 Reply Last reply
                  • jon-nycJ Online
                    jon-nycJ Online
                    jon-nyc
                    wrote last edited by
                    #190

                    IMG_7802.jpeg

                    Thank you for your attention to this matter.

                    1 Reply Last reply
                    • 89th8 89th

                      You know, I don't really care in that it doesn't affect anything in my life, but at a broad level holy shit this should be so alarming to everyone in the country. Not the first time I've thought that phrase, especially since January 2025.

                      LuFins DadL Offline
                      LuFins DadL Offline
                      LuFins Dad
                      wrote last edited by
                      #191

                      @89th said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:

                      You know, I don't really care in that it doesn't affect anything in my life, but at a broad level holy shit this should be so alarming to everyone in the country. Not the first time I've thought that phrase, especially since January 2025.

                      Spare me your alarm. Where was it during Murthy Vs Missouri? Or when they tried to implement the Disinformation Governance Board? How about the multiple attempts to reinstate The Fairness Doctrine? Remember when Babylon Bee sued and won after CA adopted legislation that would have labeled satire as misinformation?

                      As mentioned above, Trump and Co. fucked up pretty big time. I’m happy to see them get their hands smacked hard on this. But the liberal pearl clutching is disingenuous and nauseating.

                      The Brad

                      1 Reply Last reply
                      • jon-nycJ Online
                        jon-nycJ Online
                        jon-nyc
                        wrote last edited by
                        #192

                        Good thing there are no liberals here the way you’re using the term.

                        By the way Trump & Co haven’t been slapped hard. They’ve been accommodated.

                        Thank you for your attention to this matter.

                        1 Reply Last reply
                        • 89th8 Online
                          89th8 Online
                          89th
                          wrote last edited by
                          #193

                          I'm torn on the Fairness Doctrine. Certainly I can see how it conflicts with free speech, but holy shit how news/media got SO MUCH WORSE since it was removed and we saw a substantial increase in political hackery, for-profit bias and misinformation, and a substantial decrease in trust and civics fluency.

                          1 Reply Last reply
                          • HoraceH Online
                            HoraceH Online
                            Horace
                            wrote last edited by
                            #194

                            The playing field the fairness doctrine was meant to referee, is all but abandoned and irrelevant anyway.

                            Education is extremely important.

                            89th8 2 Replies Last reply
                            • jon-nycJ Online
                              jon-nycJ Online
                              jon-nyc
                              wrote last edited by
                              #195

                              It was only relevant, and only constitutionally justifiable, when there was scarcity of broadcast bandwidth. Once we got cable it was hard to justify and when we got internet impossible.

                              It did have its benefits though.

                              Thank you for your attention to this matter.

                              1 Reply Last reply
                              • LuFins DadL Offline
                                LuFins DadL Offline
                                LuFins Dad
                                wrote last edited by
                                #196

                                Shapiro pretty well summed up my opinion…

                                Link to video

                                But, I would go farther than that. This was a massive mistake on Trumps part because it also reverses the moral standings. Americans in general cannot have two things be true in their own heads. They can’t comprehend that Kimmel trying to misinform the public on the motives and philosophy of the shooter is morally and ethically reprehensible while also acknowledging that the administration trying to shut him up is also morally and ethically reprehensible. They can’t see both being true at the same time, so instead they take idiotic stances on either side.

                                Personally? I at least trust the courts and the rule of law to correct the damage done by Trump on this one. The damage done by Kimmel is already out there.

                                The Brad

                                1 Reply Last reply
                                • jon-nycJ Online
                                  jon-nycJ Online
                                  jon-nyc
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #197

                                  FIRE weighs in (gift link)

                                  https://wapo.st/4gsUn9k

                                  Thank you for your attention to this matter.

                                  1 Reply Last reply
                                  • jon-nycJ Online
                                    jon-nycJ Online
                                    jon-nyc
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #198

                                    Thank you for your attention to this matter.

                                    1 Reply Last reply
                                    • LuFins DadL Offline
                                      LuFins DadL Offline
                                      LuFins Dad
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #199

                                      The pandering to the outrage mob is strong with this one…

                                      The Brad

                                      Doctor PhibesD 1 Reply Last reply
                                      • HoraceH Horace

                                        The playing field the fairness doctrine was meant to referee, is all but abandoned and irrelevant anyway.

                                        89th8 Online
                                        89th8 Online
                                        89th
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #200

                                        @Horace said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:

                                        The playing field the fairness doctrine was meant to referee, is all but abandoned and irrelevant anyway.

                                        True

                                        1 Reply Last reply
                                        • HoraceH Horace

                                          The playing field the fairness doctrine was meant to referee, is all but abandoned and irrelevant anyway.

                                          89th8 Online
                                          89th8 Online
                                          89th
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #201
                                          This post is deleted!
                                          1 Reply Last reply
                                          Reply
                                          • Reply as topic
                                          Log in to reply
                                          • Oldest to Newest
                                          • Newest to Oldest
                                          • Most Votes


                                          • Login

                                          • Don't have an account? Register

                                          • Login or register to search.
                                          • First post
                                            Last post
                                          0
                                          • Categories
                                          • Recent
                                          • Tags
                                          • Popular
                                          • Users
                                          • Groups