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Glad the free speech folks are in charge

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  • HoraceH Offline
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    Horace
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    #176

    It's shitty that the FCC guy made that threat. Of course any such threat, and to whatever extent it's credible, any such action, only strengthens the opposition.

    Education is extremely important.

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    • HoraceH Offline
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      #177

      As for Kimmel, the theory that the shooter is Maga, is crazy enough that a reasonable analogy would have been to blame the jews. It was crazy as of the Monday night taping in question.

      Education is extremely important.

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      • HoraceH Horace

        As for Kimmel, the theory that the shooter is Maga, is crazy enough that a reasonable analogy would have been to blame the jews. It was crazy as of the Monday night taping in question.

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        @Horace

        As for Kimmel, the theory that the shooter is Maga, is crazy enough that a reasonable analogy would have been to blame the secular Jews [like George Soros].

        FIFY

        An often cited collective of imagined bogeymen in The Maga Gospel.

        Elbows up!

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        • LuFins DadL Offline
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          The Brad

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          • jon-nycJ Offline
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            #180

            She would have imagine because there’s no evidence that there was any.

            I’m old enough to remember 2018 and it was definitely an environment where a major tv broadcaster would fire someone comparing a prominent black woman to an ape. Even without any government intervention.

            Also, can anyone really imagine the Trump administration pressuring ABC to fire her? Over a tweet about Valerie Jarret?

            ABC canceled her show the same day as her tweet. My guess is the only calls they received in the interim were from Proctor & Gamble and Anheiser Busch.

            Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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              It was ABC that ousted Howard Cosell not long after the ‘little monkey’ remark. I doubt the Reagan administration intervened there either.

              Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                She would have imagine because there’s no evidence that there was any.

                I’m old enough to remember 2018 and it was definitely an environment where a major tv broadcaster would fire someone comparing a prominent black woman to an ape. Even without any government intervention.

                Also, can anyone really imagine the Trump administration pressuring ABC to fire her? Over a tweet about Valerie Jarret?

                ABC canceled her show the same day as her tweet. My guess is the only calls they received in the interim were from Proctor & Gamble and Anheiser Busch.

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                @jon-nyc said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:

                She would have imagine because there’s no evidence that there was any.

                I’m old enough to remember 2018 and it was definitely an environment where a major tv broadcaster would fire someone comparing a prominent black woman to an ape. Even without any government intervention.

                Hang on a minute, my Google seems to be acting up. Who exactly was President in 2018?

                I was only joking

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                  I since edited the post. @Doctor-Phibes

                  Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                  • LuFins DadL Offline
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                    What I find funny is the administration at the time would have been Trump…

                    But there has been plenty enough examples over the years from the left that I find the pearl clutching disingenuous and a little amusing.

                    The Brad

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                    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                      What I find funny is the administration at the time would have been Trump…

                      But there has been plenty enough examples over the years from the left that I find the pearl clutching disingenuous and a little amusing.

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                      @LuFins-Dad said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:

                      What I find funny is the administration at the time would have been Trump…

                      But there has been plenty enough examples over the years from the left that I find the pearl clutching disingenuous and a little amusing.

                      It would be ruled unconstitutional after it got to SCOTUS anyway. Which I expect it would, in very short order.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                        What I find funny is the administration at the time would have been Trump…

                        But there has been plenty enough examples over the years from the left that I find the pearl clutching disingenuous and a little amusing.

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                        @LuFins-Dad said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:

                        What I find funny is the administration at the time would have been Trump…

                        But there has been plenty enough examples over the years from the left that I find the pearl clutching disingenuous and a little amusing.

                        Seems like the President and FCC chair threatening to pull their broadcast license is new, and relevant. Especially from a president who has made it clear he doesn’t believe in free speech at all.

                        Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                          This aged like Kristi Noem’s dog.

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                            You know, I don't really care in that it doesn't affect anything in my life, but at a broad level holy shit this should be so alarming to everyone in the country. Not the first time I've thought that phrase, especially since January 2025.

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                            • 89th8 89th

                              You know, I don't really care in that it doesn't affect anything in my life, but at a broad level holy shit this should be so alarming to everyone in the country. Not the first time I've thought that phrase, especially since January 2025.

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                              @89th said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:

                              You know, I don't really care in that it doesn't affect anything in my life, but at a broad level holy shit this should be so alarming to everyone in the country. Not the first time I've thought that phrase, especially since January 2025.

                              I think I can safely say that I would be content with the own-goal by the administration I hated, and with the 100% expectation of SCOTUS overturning their attempt (if it got to that). But yes I would note that "this is why I hate them".

                              Education is extremely important.

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                                • 89th8 89th

                                  You know, I don't really care in that it doesn't affect anything in my life, but at a broad level holy shit this should be so alarming to everyone in the country. Not the first time I've thought that phrase, especially since January 2025.

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                                  @89th said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:

                                  You know, I don't really care in that it doesn't affect anything in my life, but at a broad level holy shit this should be so alarming to everyone in the country. Not the first time I've thought that phrase, especially since January 2025.

                                  Spare me your alarm. Where was it during Murthy Vs Missouri? Or when they tried to implement the Disinformation Governance Board? How about the multiple attempts to reinstate The Fairness Doctrine? Remember when Babylon Bee sued and won after CA adopted legislation that would have labeled satire as misinformation?

                                  As mentioned above, Trump and Co. fucked up pretty big time. I’m happy to see them get their hands smacked hard on this. But the liberal pearl clutching is disingenuous and nauseating.

                                  The Brad

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                                    Good thing there are no liberals here the way you’re using the term.

                                    By the way Trump & Co haven’t been slapped hard. They’ve been accommodated.

                                    Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                                    • 89th8 Online
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                                      I'm torn on the Fairness Doctrine. Certainly I can see how it conflicts with free speech, but holy shit how news/media got SO MUCH WORSE since it was removed and we saw a substantial increase in political hackery, for-profit bias and misinformation, and a substantial decrease in trust and civics fluency.

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                                        The playing field the fairness doctrine was meant to referee, is all but abandoned and irrelevant anyway.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                          It was only relevant, and only constitutionally justifiable, when there was scarcity of broadcast bandwidth. Once we got cable it was hard to justify and when we got internet impossible.

                                          It did have its benefits though.

                                          Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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