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Glad the free speech folks are in charge

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  • HoraceH Offline
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    Horace
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    #174

    Disney pulled Kimmel's show just now, over comments he made Monday about how "maga was desperate to avoid admitting the obvious, that the assassin was one of their own".

    Yep pendulum is swinging too far. Pretty sure tribal idiocy is protected. Almost every leftist punditry show in the world has similar delusions about the shooter. That's protected. Though of course Disney is free to do whatever they want.

    Education is extremely important.

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    • jon-nycJ Offline
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      #175

      It’s probably worth mentioning Disney pulled the show after the head of the FCC, who often wears a lapel pin of Donald Trump’s face, threatened their broadcast license.

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      • HoraceH Offline
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        #176

        It's shitty that the FCC guy made that threat. Of course any such threat, and to whatever extent it's credible, any such action, only strengthens the opposition.

        Education is extremely important.

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        • HoraceH Offline
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          #177

          As for Kimmel, the theory that the shooter is Maga, is crazy enough that a reasonable analogy would have been to blame the jews. It was crazy as of the Monday night taping in question.

          Education is extremely important.

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          • HoraceH Horace

            As for Kimmel, the theory that the shooter is Maga, is crazy enough that a reasonable analogy would have been to blame the jews. It was crazy as of the Monday night taping in question.

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            @Horace

            As for Kimmel, the theory that the shooter is Maga, is crazy enough that a reasonable analogy would have been to blame the secular Jews [like George Soros].

            FIFY

            An often cited collective of imagined bogeymen in The Maga Gospel.

            Elbows up!

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            • LuFins DadL Offline
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              #179

              The Brad

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              • jon-nycJ Offline
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                #180

                She would have imagine because there’s no evidence that there was any.

                I’m old enough to remember 2018 and it was definitely an environment where a major tv broadcaster would fire someone comparing a prominent black woman to an ape. Even without any government intervention.

                Also, can anyone really imagine the Trump administration pressuring ABC to fire her? Over a tweet about Valerie Jarret?

                ABC canceled her show the same day as her tweet. My guess is the only calls they received in the interim were from Proctor & Gamble and Anheiser Busch.

                Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                  #181

                  It was ABC that ousted Howard Cosell not long after the ‘little monkey’ remark. I doubt the Reagan administration intervened there either.

                  Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                    She would have imagine because there’s no evidence that there was any.

                    I’m old enough to remember 2018 and it was definitely an environment where a major tv broadcaster would fire someone comparing a prominent black woman to an ape. Even without any government intervention.

                    Also, can anyone really imagine the Trump administration pressuring ABC to fire her? Over a tweet about Valerie Jarret?

                    ABC canceled her show the same day as her tweet. My guess is the only calls they received in the interim were from Proctor & Gamble and Anheiser Busch.

                    Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                    @jon-nyc said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:

                    She would have imagine because there’s no evidence that there was any.

                    I’m old enough to remember 2018 and it was definitely an environment where a major tv broadcaster would fire someone comparing a prominent black woman to an ape. Even without any government intervention.

                    Hang on a minute, my Google seems to be acting up. Who exactly was President in 2018?

                    I was only joking

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                      I since edited the post. @Doctor-Phibes

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                      • LuFins DadL Offline
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                        #184

                        What I find funny is the administration at the time would have been Trump…

                        But there has been plenty enough examples over the years from the left that I find the pearl clutching disingenuous and a little amusing.

                        The Brad

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                        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                          What I find funny is the administration at the time would have been Trump…

                          But there has been plenty enough examples over the years from the left that I find the pearl clutching disingenuous and a little amusing.

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                          @LuFins-Dad said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:

                          What I find funny is the administration at the time would have been Trump…

                          But there has been plenty enough examples over the years from the left that I find the pearl clutching disingenuous and a little amusing.

                          It would be ruled unconstitutional after it got to SCOTUS anyway. Which I expect it would, in very short order.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                            What I find funny is the administration at the time would have been Trump…

                            But there has been plenty enough examples over the years from the left that I find the pearl clutching disingenuous and a little amusing.

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                            @LuFins-Dad said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:

                            What I find funny is the administration at the time would have been Trump…

                            But there has been plenty enough examples over the years from the left that I find the pearl clutching disingenuous and a little amusing.

                            Seems like the President and FCC chair threatening to pull their broadcast license is new, and relevant. Especially from a president who has made it clear he doesn’t believe in free speech at all.

                            Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                              #187

                              This aged like Kristi Noem’s dog.

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                                You know, I don't really care in that it doesn't affect anything in my life, but at a broad level holy shit this should be so alarming to everyone in the country. Not the first time I've thought that phrase, especially since January 2025.

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                                • 89th8 89th

                                  You know, I don't really care in that it doesn't affect anything in my life, but at a broad level holy shit this should be so alarming to everyone in the country. Not the first time I've thought that phrase, especially since January 2025.

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                                  @89th said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:

                                  You know, I don't really care in that it doesn't affect anything in my life, but at a broad level holy shit this should be so alarming to everyone in the country. Not the first time I've thought that phrase, especially since January 2025.

                                  I think I can safely say that I would be content with the own-goal by the administration I hated, and with the 100% expectation of SCOTUS overturning their attempt (if it got to that). But yes I would note that "this is why I hate them".

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                    • 89th8 89th

                                      You know, I don't really care in that it doesn't affect anything in my life, but at a broad level holy shit this should be so alarming to everyone in the country. Not the first time I've thought that phrase, especially since January 2025.

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                                      @89th said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:

                                      You know, I don't really care in that it doesn't affect anything in my life, but at a broad level holy shit this should be so alarming to everyone in the country. Not the first time I've thought that phrase, especially since January 2025.

                                      Spare me your alarm. Where was it during Murthy Vs Missouri? Or when they tried to implement the Disinformation Governance Board? How about the multiple attempts to reinstate The Fairness Doctrine? Remember when Babylon Bee sued and won after CA adopted legislation that would have labeled satire as misinformation?

                                      As mentioned above, Trump and Co. fucked up pretty big time. I’m happy to see them get their hands smacked hard on this. But the liberal pearl clutching is disingenuous and nauseating.

                                      The Brad

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                                        #192

                                        Good thing there are no liberals here the way you’re using the term.

                                        By the way Trump & Co haven’t been slapped hard. They’ve been accommodated.

                                        Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                                          I'm torn on the Fairness Doctrine. Certainly I can see how it conflicts with free speech, but holy shit how news/media got SO MUCH WORSE since it was removed and we saw a substantial increase in political hackery, for-profit bias and misinformation, and a substantial decrease in trust and civics fluency.

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