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  • jon-nycJ Online
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      I mean, yes Trump is a hypocrite for that, but he also basically won the Presidency in 2016 over being able to say "you're fired" on a tv game show.

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        I was going to create a thread about this yesterday but had difficulty in finding the words to express my opinion. I’ll give it a shot, here.

        1. Trump and the AG vocalizing the thing completely crosses a barrier and violates Free Speech as laid out in the Constitution. Private employers doing so on their own does not. That’s just the consequences of their decisions.

        2. If an employer sees the posts and takes action on their own, 👍 If a concerned customer or a member of the community sees the posts and makes a complaint? 👍 If nobody in the community notices or cares, but instead it’s the result of Libs of TikTok finding the post and rallying her followers for a round of intimidation and generally being a mob? 👎

        3. There is a bit of a difference as well depending on the severity of the actions and statements. A lot of cancel culture was over much smaller and more normal interactions. Bakers and photographers deciding to not accept commissions for events that violated their personal morals, and they politely recommended somebody else. And for this they get their lives destroyed? That’s cancel culture. A restaurant chain owner making a statement of faith and that they believe in the biblical declaration of faith then having the blue haired mob protest and try to prevent those restaurants from expanding? That’s cancel culture. A school teacher posting a TikTok video cheering on a shooting and a death, telling the world that anybody that agrees with that person is a piece of shit (roughly 60% of their own students and their family), and Ben Shapiro or JK Rowling is next? Yeah, they need to be removed from their jobs.

        The Brad

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          The Brad

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            Going on a crusade because 20 years ago a comedian did a bit about trans people or somebody wore blackface to a Halloween party? Cancel Culture.

            Publicly celebrating supporting domestic terrorism? Consequences.

            The Brad

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              @LuFins-Dad said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:

              My main thought after clicking on that is how much I miss the Twitter character limit.

              I was only joking

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                jon-nycJ Online
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                @LuFins-Dad

                Saw that the other day. Shocking how the guys posting this shit miss the irony. Well, more tragic than shocking.

                Also interesting what does and doesn’t make the cut when they develop their lists of violent actions over the recent past.

                Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                  He has a good point about center left cucks being unable to police their own, as the religious progressive wing of their tribe became dominant and overreaching. Now those same cucks find their courage screaming at the other tribe, as they see the electoral consequences of how repulsive their tribe became. Pretty common, and common sense, perspective on where we're at, actually. Expressed often by the likes of Yglesias and Klein. Though Fat Matt doesn't use the word "cuck", because it is mean.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                  • jon-nycJ Online
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                    • jon-nycJ Online
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                      She’s trying to dig out by pretending she said something different.

                      Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                        @LuFins-Dad ... still better than the alternative, right? Just checking.

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                        @Axtremus said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:

                        @LuFins-Dad ... still better than the alternative, right? Just checking.

                        Do you even have to ask? At least the left is now pretending to care about Free Speech.

                        The Brad

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                          Now we’re doing compelled speech too. But as @George-K says, if it weren’t for their double standards, they’d have no standards at all.

                          Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                            @LuFins-Dad

                            Saw that the other day. Shocking how the guys posting this shit miss the irony. Well, more tragic than shocking.

                            Also interesting what does and doesn’t make the cut when they develop their lists of violent actions over the recent past.

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                            @jon-nyc said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:

                            @LuFins-Dad

                            Saw that the other day. Shocking how the guys posting this shit miss the irony. Well, more tragic than shocking.

                            Also interesting what does and doesn’t make the cut when they develop their lists of violent actions over the recent past.

                            Please show me your list of violent actions over the recent past. I’m sure the Minnesota legislators will be on the list. Did they ever determine whether the right winger killed them because they were left wing or was it because they voted for the anti-illegal immigrant measures that the right winger opposed?

                            The Brad

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                              This is Cancel Culture

                              This is legitimate consequences.

                              https://1819news.com/news/item/montgomery-public-schools-teacher-placed-on-administrative-leave-after-video-mocking-charlie-kirks-death-i-hope-he-suffered

                              The Brad

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                                @jon-nyc said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:

                                @LuFins-Dad

                                Saw that the other day. Shocking how the guys posting this shit miss the irony. Well, more tragic than shocking.

                                Also interesting what does and doesn’t make the cut when they develop their lists of violent actions over the recent past.

                                Please show me your list of violent actions over the recent past. I’m sure the Minnesota legislators will be on the list. Did they ever determine whether the right winger killed them because they were left wing or was it because they voted for the anti-illegal immigrant measures that the right winger opposed?

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                                @LuFins-Dad

                                I don’t have a list but those woke libtards at the Cato Institute do.

                                Keep scrolling if you want post 2020 data.

                                https://www.cato.org/blog/politically-motivated-violence-rare-united-states

                                Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                  @LuFins-Dad

                                  I don’t have a list but those woke libtards at the Cato Institute do.

                                  Keep scrolling if you want post 2020 data.

                                  https://www.cato.org/blog/politically-motivated-violence-rare-united-states

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                                  @jon-nyc said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:

                                  @LuFins-Dad

                                  I don’t have a list but those woke libtards at the Cato Institute do.

                                  Keep scrolling if you want post 2020 data.

                                  https://www.cato.org/blog/politically-motivated-violence-rare-united-states

                                  They are looking for specifically politically motivated terrorist attacks which is a different animal than was originally posted and discussed. I also find it interesting that they count OKC, but don’t include 9/11z

                                  The Brad

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                                    They did include 9/11 in the first graph. You scrolled too fast.

                                    Most of the terrorism is from that foul memetic complex known as the religion of peace. In later graphs they exclude 9/11 since everything else gets lost in comparison. Their main point is how rare political violence is.

                                    Graph 3 excludes OKC as it zeroes in on 2020-present.

                                    Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                                      Abbot has long despised the first amendment so this is not surprising.

                                      Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                                          Heckling the president is grounds for RICO.

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