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Glad the free speech folks are in charge

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  • HoraceH Offline
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    Horace
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    #136

    I take it as empty fan service, an eye for an eye smite against the dominant culture that was understood by all to impose the economic death penalty on anybody who, for instance, dared to publicly question their employer’s shiny new DEI division.

    Yes, it’s all a great shame for those hoping for coherent principle rather than cultural retribution.

    Education is extremely important.

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    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

      Do they even understand that now the employers can’t fire the people thanks to that statement?

      AxtremusA Offline
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      #137

      @LuFins-Dad ... still better than the alternative, right? Just checking.

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      • AxtremusA Axtremus

        @LuFins-Dad ... still better than the alternative, right? Just checking.

        HoraceH Offline
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        #138

        @Axtremus said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:

        @LuFins-Dad ... still better than the alternative, right? Just checking.

        Sure, empty posturing about employers firing people for high fiving in the break room over Charlie Kirk is an acceptable trade off for the erosion of the culture that gave us DEI offices in our workplaces, along with the understood consequences of criticizing them.

        Education is extremely important.

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        • jon-nycJ Offline
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          jon-nyc
          wrote on last edited by
          #139

          If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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            jon-nyc
            wrote on last edited by
            #140

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            If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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            • jon-nycJ Offline
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              jon-nyc
              wrote on last edited by
              #141

              If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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              • 89th8 Offline
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                #142

                I mean, yes Trump is a hypocrite for that, but he also basically won the Presidency in 2016 over being able to say "you're fired" on a tv game show.

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                • LuFins DadL Offline
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                  LuFins Dad
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                  #143

                  I was going to create a thread about this yesterday but had difficulty in finding the words to express my opinion. I’ll give it a shot, here.

                  1. Trump and the AG vocalizing the thing completely crosses a barrier and violates Free Speech as laid out in the Constitution. Private employers doing so on their own does not. That’s just the consequences of their decisions.

                  2. If an employer sees the posts and takes action on their own, 👍 If a concerned customer or a member of the community sees the posts and makes a complaint? 👍 If nobody in the community notices or cares, but instead it’s the result of Libs of TikTok finding the post and rallying her followers for a round of intimidation and generally being a mob? 👎

                  3. There is a bit of a difference as well depending on the severity of the actions and statements. A lot of cancel culture was over much smaller and more normal interactions. Bakers and photographers deciding to not accept commissions for events that violated their personal morals, and they politely recommended somebody else. And for this they get their lives destroyed? That’s cancel culture. A restaurant chain owner making a statement of faith and that they believe in the biblical declaration of faith then having the blue haired mob protest and try to prevent those restaurants from expanding? That’s cancel culture. A school teacher posting a TikTok video cheering on a shooting and a death, telling the world that anybody that agrees with that person is a piece of shit (roughly 60% of their own students and their family), and Ben Shapiro or JK Rowling is next? Yeah, they need to be removed from their jobs.

                  The Brad

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                  • LuFins DadL Offline
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                    LuFins Dad
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                    #144

                    The Brad

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                    • LuFins DadL Offline
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                      LuFins Dad
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #145

                      Going on a crusade because 20 years ago a comedian did a bit about trans people or somebody wore blackface to a Halloween party? Cancel Culture.

                      Publicly celebrating supporting domestic terrorism? Consequences.

                      The Brad

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                      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                        Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                        wrote on last edited by
                        #146

                        @LuFins-Dad said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:

                        My main thought after clicking on that is how much I miss the Twitter character limit.

                        I was only joking

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                        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

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                          #147

                          @LuFins-Dad

                          Saw that the other day. Shocking how the guys posting this shit miss the irony. Well, more tragic than shocking.

                          Also interesting what does and doesn’t make the cut when they develop their lists of violent actions over the recent past.

                          If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                          • HoraceH Offline
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                            #148

                            He has a good point about center left cucks being unable to police their own, as the religious progressive wing of their tribe became dominant and overreaching. Now those same cucks find their courage screaming at the other tribe, as they see the electoral consequences of how repulsive their tribe became. Pretty common, and common sense, perspective on where we're at, actually. Expressed often by the likes of Yglesias and Klein. Though Fat Matt doesn't use the word "cuck", because it is mean.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                              jon-nyc
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                              #149

                              If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                                jon-nyc
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                                #150

                                She’s trying to dig out by pretending she said something different.

                                If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                                • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                  @LuFins-Dad ... still better than the alternative, right? Just checking.

                                  LuFins DadL Offline
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                                  @Axtremus said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:

                                  @LuFins-Dad ... still better than the alternative, right? Just checking.

                                  Do you even have to ask? At least the left is now pretending to care about Free Speech.

                                  The Brad

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                                    jon-nyc
                                    wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
                                    #152

                                    Now we’re doing compelled speech too. But as @George-K says, if it weren’t for their double standards, they’d have no standards at all.

                                    If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                      @LuFins-Dad

                                      Saw that the other day. Shocking how the guys posting this shit miss the irony. Well, more tragic than shocking.

                                      Also interesting what does and doesn’t make the cut when they develop their lists of violent actions over the recent past.

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                                      @jon-nyc said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:

                                      @LuFins-Dad

                                      Saw that the other day. Shocking how the guys posting this shit miss the irony. Well, more tragic than shocking.

                                      Also interesting what does and doesn’t make the cut when they develop their lists of violent actions over the recent past.

                                      Please show me your list of violent actions over the recent past. I’m sure the Minnesota legislators will be on the list. Did they ever determine whether the right winger killed them because they were left wing or was it because they voted for the anti-illegal immigrant measures that the right winger opposed?

                                      The Brad

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                                      • LuFins DadL Offline
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                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #154

                                        This is Cancel Culture

                                        This is legitimate consequences.

                                        https://1819news.com/news/item/montgomery-public-schools-teacher-placed-on-administrative-leave-after-video-mocking-charlie-kirks-death-i-hope-he-suffered

                                        The Brad

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                                        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                          @jon-nyc said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:

                                          @LuFins-Dad

                                          Saw that the other day. Shocking how the guys posting this shit miss the irony. Well, more tragic than shocking.

                                          Also interesting what does and doesn’t make the cut when they develop their lists of violent actions over the recent past.

                                          Please show me your list of violent actions over the recent past. I’m sure the Minnesota legislators will be on the list. Did they ever determine whether the right winger killed them because they were left wing or was it because they voted for the anti-illegal immigrant measures that the right winger opposed?

                                          jon-nycJ Offline
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                                          jon-nyc
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #155

                                          @LuFins-Dad

                                          I don’t have a list but those woke libtards at the Cato Institute do.

                                          Keep scrolling if you want post 2020 data.

                                          https://www.cato.org/blog/politically-motivated-violence-rare-united-states

                                          If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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