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Mr. Clemency

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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    #70

    It could happen...

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • George KG Offline
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      George K
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      #71

      Surprised it took so long...

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      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        #72

        Heard on the radio today, that privately, several Dems are upset with this one.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • JollyJ Jolly

          Heard on the radio today, that privately, several Dems are upset with this one.

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          George K
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          #73

          @Jolly said in Mr. Clemency:

          Heard on the radio today, that privately, several Dems are upset with this one.

          And they plan to....what?

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            Jolly
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            #74

            Do nothing, I would suspect.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • MikM Away
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              Mik
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              #75

              Be upset. But man, he is providing enough Willie Hortons to last for decades.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              • George KG Offline
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                George K
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                #76

                Take comfort in the fact that the murderers are not going to be released.

                Right?

                RIGHT???

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • MikM Away
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                  Mik
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                  #77

                  Clemency was never intended to be used in this manner. Totally inappropriate. If you can convince the legislature to abolish capital punishment, great. All for it. But not like this.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • George KG George K

                    It could happen...

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                    jon-nyc
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                    #78

                    @George-K said in Mr. Clemency:

                    It could happen...

                    I don’t think so. He could pardon them for past violations of immigration law, but that wouldn’t change their immigration status. They’d be illegal again tomorrow.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                    • MikM Away
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                      Mik
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                      It might protect them from prosecution but not deportation.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      • George KG George K

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                        George K
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                        #80

                        @George-K said in Mr. Clemency:

                        Mollie continues:

                        Not sure if #1 is an issue. Did he even know that the law he proposed 25 years ago was a "matter of conscience?"

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          George K
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                          More piling on on the subject of hypocrisy:

                          https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1871216903953502547.html?utm_campaign=topunroll

                          tl;dr - some murderers are more worthy of clemency than others, depending on their political usefulness.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • MikM Away
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                            Mik
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                            #82

                            Like I said, a lifetime supply of Willie Hortons for Dem candidates. They will either have to stand up for these moves or condemn them. Neither position is anything they will want to adopt. The squirming will be delicious.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              jon-nyc
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                              #83

                              These guys are still in prison for life ineligible for parole. They’re not Willie Hortons.

                              Only non-witches get due process.

                              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                              • MikM Away
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                                Oh, yes. Yes, they are.

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  George K
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                                  I'm still curious about the metric that POTATUS used to decide which murderers are good enough to keep alive. Apparently baby-killing or witness murder is a get-out-of-the-chair-free card.

                                  From the guy who crafted a bill that was broad enough to imprison you for jaywalking.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • MikM Mik

                                    Oh, yes. Yes, they are.

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                                    jon-nyc
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                                    @Mik said in Mr. Clemency:

                                    Oh, yes. Yes, they are.

                                    Willie Horton was paroled and then killed someone. These guys are ineligible for parole and will leave jail feet first.

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

                                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                      @Mik said in Mr. Clemency:

                                      Oh, yes. Yes, they are.

                                      Willie Horton was paroled and then killed someone. These guys are ineligible for parole and will leave jail feet first.

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                                      @jon-nyc said in Mr. Clemency:

                                      ineligible for parole

                                      1,124

                                      1,124 people sentenced to life without parole as children have been released since Montgomery v. Louisiana in 2016.

                                      https://cfsy.org/sentencing-children-to-life-without-parole-national-numbers/#:~:text=1%2C124 people sentenced to life,is down from 2%2C800 people.

                                      And the next time a democrat needs some votes, these numbers will go up.

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                                        jon-nyc
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                                        #88

                                        I doubt any of the 37 are children.

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                                          LOL

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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