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Mr. Clemency

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    George K
    wrote on 24 Dec 2024, 03:25 last edited by
    #76

    Take comfort in the fact that the murderers are not going to be released.

    Right?

    RIGHT???

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      Mik
      wrote on 24 Dec 2024, 05:18 last edited by
      #77

      Clemency was never intended to be used in this manner. Totally inappropriate. If you can convince the legislature to abolish capital punishment, great. All for it. But not like this.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        24 Dec 2024, 00:35

        It could happen...

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        jon-nyc
        wrote on 24 Dec 2024, 21:41 last edited by jon-nyc
        #78

        @George-K said in Mr. Clemency:

        It could happen...

        I don’t think so. He could pardon them for past violations of immigration law, but that wouldn’t change their immigration status. They’d be illegal again tomorrow.

        Only non-witches get due process.

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          Mik
          wrote on 24 Dec 2024, 22:35 last edited by
          #79

          It might protect them from prosecution but not deportation.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            23 Dec 2024, 14:29

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            George K
            wrote on 26 Dec 2024, 02:24 last edited by George K
            #80

            @George-K said in Mr. Clemency:

            Mollie continues:

            Not sure if #1 is an issue. Did he even know that the law he proposed 25 years ago was a "matter of conscience?"

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              George K
              wrote on 26 Dec 2024, 02:31 last edited by
              #81

              More piling on on the subject of hypocrisy:

              https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1871216903953502547.html?utm_campaign=topunroll

              tl;dr - some murderers are more worthy of clemency than others, depending on their political usefulness.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                Mik
                wrote on 26 Dec 2024, 04:38 last edited by
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                Like I said, a lifetime supply of Willie Hortons for Dem candidates. They will either have to stand up for these moves or condemn them. Neither position is anything they will want to adopt. The squirming will be delicious.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on 26 Dec 2024, 12:41 last edited by
                  #83

                  These guys are still in prison for life ineligible for parole. They’re not Willie Hortons.

                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                    Mik
                    wrote on 26 Dec 2024, 14:58 last edited by
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                    Oh, yes. Yes, they are.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      George K
                      wrote on 26 Dec 2024, 15:03 last edited by
                      #85

                      I'm still curious about the metric that POTATUS used to decide which murderers are good enough to keep alive. Apparently baby-killing or witness murder is a get-out-of-the-chair-free card.

                      From the guy who crafted a bill that was broad enough to imprison you for jaywalking.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • M Mik
                        26 Dec 2024, 14:58

                        Oh, yes. Yes, they are.

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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on 26 Dec 2024, 20:54 last edited by
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                        @Mik said in Mr. Clemency:

                        Oh, yes. Yes, they are.

                        Willie Horton was paroled and then killed someone. These guys are ineligible for parole and will leave jail feet first.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                          26 Dec 2024, 20:54

                          @Mik said in Mr. Clemency:

                          Oh, yes. Yes, they are.

                          Willie Horton was paroled and then killed someone. These guys are ineligible for parole and will leave jail feet first.

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                          Copper
                          wrote on 26 Dec 2024, 21:44 last edited by
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                          @jon-nyc said in Mr. Clemency:

                          ineligible for parole

                          1,124

                          1,124 people sentenced to life without parole as children have been released since Montgomery v. Louisiana in 2016.

                          https://cfsy.org/sentencing-children-to-life-without-parole-national-numbers/#:~:text=1%2C124 people sentenced to life,is down from 2%2C800 people.

                          And the next time a democrat needs some votes, these numbers will go up.

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                            jon-nyc
                            wrote on 26 Dec 2024, 21:47 last edited by
                            #88

                            I doubt any of the 37 are children.

                            Only non-witches get due process.

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                              George K
                              wrote on 26 Dec 2024, 23:34 last edited by
                              #89

                              LOL

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                jon-nyc
                                wrote on 27 Dec 2024, 00:14 last edited by
                                #90

                                Surprised it took over three weeks to find it.

                                Only non-witches get due process.

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                                • J jon-nyc
                                  26 Dec 2024, 20:54

                                  @Mik said in Mr. Clemency:

                                  Oh, yes. Yes, they are.

                                  Willie Horton was paroled and then killed someone. These guys are ineligible for parole and will leave jail feet first.

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                                  Mik
                                  wrote on 27 Dec 2024, 03:56 last edited by
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                                  @jon-nyc said in Mr. Clemency:

                                  @Mik said in Mr. Clemency:

                                  Oh, yes. Yes, they are.

                                  Willie Horton was paroled and then killed someone. These guys are ineligible for parole and will leave jail feet first.

                                  Doesn’t matter. He circumvented the justice system and some really horrible, evil people will now live out their lives. It’s a perfect example of the Dem party’s lawlessness and every candidate for years will be required to either support or condemn it.

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    George K
                                    wrote on 30 Dec 2024, 21:46 last edited by
                                    #92

                                    I mean, if you're going to offer clemency, don't be half-assed about it.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      Mik
                                      wrote on 31 Dec 2024, 03:17 last edited by
                                      #93

                                      Jesus.

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        George K
                                        wrote on 19 Jan 2025, 15:06 last edited by George K
                                        #94

                                        What's the over/under that the Grifter-in-Chief will pardon his brother within the next 26 hours?

                                        You know, the guy who was the subject of a criminal referral by Congress last summer.

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          George K
                                          wrote on 20 Jan 2025, 12:44 last edited by
                                          #95

                                          Fauci
                                          Milley
                                          Jan 6 Committee members.

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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