Mr. Clemency
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@George-K said in Mr. Clemency:
If their death sentences were commuted, the prisoners, all convicted of murder, would serve life without parole
I dont have a big problem with this. The death penalty does not reduce crime, and while I think some people deserve it, it often takes decades or longer for any death sentence to be one. Life in prison is a pretty severe punishment.
@taiwan_girl said in Mr. Clemency:
I dont have a big problem with this. The death penalty does not reduce crime, and while I think some people deserve it, it often takes decades or longer for any death sentence to be one. Life in prison is a pretty severe punishment.
I don't disagree.
Except...
It's a matter of law. These people were sentenced to death in a legal process. To change it carte-blanche without chaining the law undermines the validity of the courts.
Want to eliminate the death penalty? Fine.
Eliminate the death penalty, but don't play games like this.
I've commented, years ago, about Hernando Williams who raped and murdered the wife of one of my colleagues. I shed no tears and felt no remorse when he met his maker.
Look him up.
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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Also...I can understand (but not necessarily agree with) the desire to commute a death sentence.
It should be done on an individual, not a carte blanche basis.
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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@taiwan_girl said in Mr. Clemency:
I dont have a big problem with this. The death penalty does not reduce crime, and while I think some people deserve it, it often takes decades or longer for any death sentence to be one. Life in prison is a pretty severe punishment.
I don't disagree.
Except...
It's a matter of law. These people were sentenced to death in a legal process. To change it carte-blanche without chaining the law undermines the validity of the courts.
Want to eliminate the death penalty? Fine.
Eliminate the death penalty, but don't play games like this.
I've commented, years ago, about Hernando Williams who raped and murdered the wife of one of my colleagues. I shed no tears and felt no remorse when he met his maker.
Look him up.
@George-K said in Mr. Clemency:
It's a matter of law. These people were sentenced to death in a legal process. To change it carte-blanche without chaining the law undermines the validity of the courts.
Agree. Pardons overall should be eliminated.
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@George-K said in Mr. Clemency:
If their death sentences were commuted, the prisoners, all convicted of murder, would serve life without parole
I dont have a big problem with this. The death penalty does not reduce crime, and while I think some people deserve it, it often takes decades or longer for any death sentence to be one. Life in prison is a pretty severe punishment.
@taiwan_girl said in Mr. Clemency:
The death penalty does not reduce crime,
Try commiting a crime after you're dead.
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@George-K said in Mr. Clemency:
It's a matter of law. These people were sentenced to death in a legal process. To change it carte-blanche without chaining the law undermines the validity of the courts.
Agree. Pardons overall should be eliminated.
@taiwan_girl said in Mr. Clemency:
Pardons overall should be eliminated.
Constitutional amendment.
Good luck.
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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Also...I can understand (but not necessarily agree with) the desire to commute a death sentence.
It should be done on an individual, not a carte blanche basis.
@George-K said in Mr. Clemency:
Also...I can understand (but not necessarily agree with) the desire to commute a death sentence.
It should be done on an individual, not a carte blanche basis.
This. It’s just circumventing rather than adhering to the law. And I’m a death penalty opponent.
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@George-K said in Mr. Clemency:
Also...I can understand (but not necessarily agree with) the desire to commute a death sentence.
It should be done on an individual, not a carte blanche basis.
This. It’s just circumventing rather than adhering to the law. And I’m a death penalty opponent.
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@taiwan_girl said in Mr. Clemency:
Pardons overall should be eliminated.
Constitutional amendment.
Good luck.
@George-K said in Mr. Clemency:
@taiwan_girl said in Mr. Clemency:
Pardons overall should be eliminated.
Constitutional amendment.
Good luck
A hand me down remnant of royal privilege from the much maligned right of kings era.
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"But guided by my conscience and my experience as a public defender, chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, Vice President, and now President, I am more convinced than ever that we must stop the use of the death penalty at the federal level. In good conscience, I cannot stand back and let a new administration resume executions that I halted."
Among those receiving the holiday cheer is Thomas Sanders, who in 2010 kidnapped and then shot 12-year-Lexis Roberts four times and cut her throat in Louisiana — days after the girl watched as Sanders murdered her mother on a road trip near the Grand Canyon.
Christmas also came early for Anthony Battle, who murdered an Atlanta prison guard with a hammer in 1994 while serving a life sentence for raping and murdering his wife, a US Marine, in 1987 at Camp Lejeune, NC.
Jorge Avila-Torrez sexually assaulted and stabbed to death two girls — Laura Hobbs, 8, and Krystal Tobias, 9 — who had been riding their bicycles in their neighborhood in a suburb north of Chicago in 2005.
Four years later, he strangled naval officer Amanda Snell, 20, inside her barrack in Arlington, Va.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violent_Crime_Control_and_Law_Enforcement_Act
Guess who authored the Senate version of this bill.
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I remember that case well. Sanders killed her about 35 miles from my house. The trial was held in the federal courthouse closest to me.
Sanders shot Lexis four times and cut her throat when she didn't die fast enough. Then he threw her body into the woods to rot.
Her remains had to be identified by dental records.
I don't know if he's in Oakdale or Pollock. I hope next year the guards "forget" about him for awhile.
You know, the Bible gives definitive dimensions for Heaven. Hell is a little different. It enlarges as the population increases. I hope Satan has an extra special place for Mr. Sanders.
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Heard on the radio today, that privately, several Dems are upset with this one.
