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    Horace
    wrote on 8 Dec 2024, 20:40 last edited by
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    His first press interview since being elected. Remarkably coherent and substantive. I appreciated that he pulled back from making any guarantees about anything he would or wouldn't do, but was clear about what he'd try to do.

    Link to video

    Education is extremely important.

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      Copper
      wrote on 8 Dec 2024, 20:49 last edited by
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      I watched a few minutes, what a breath of fresh air.

      I hope he maintained his manners.

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        Jolly
        wrote on 8 Dec 2024, 22:00 last edited by
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        He won't.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          Mik
          wrote on 8 Dec 2024, 22:15 last edited by
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          I've watched half of it so far. Welker keeps trying to play gotcha, he keeps pulling the rug out from under her. I can only imagine how Harris would have flubbed this. There's NO degradation of his mind. None.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            Mik
            wrote on 8 Dec 2024, 22:17 last edited by
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            On healthcare he might be a little disingenuous. But he got one thing right - healthcare is a whole different world than other businesses. Just understanding that is a step forward.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              George K
              wrote on 8 Dec 2024, 22:21 last edited by
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              Birthright citizenship isn't going away.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                Mik
                wrote on 8 Dec 2024, 22:52 last edited by
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                No, it isn't. It's one of the few things in the Constitution that I think may not be properly applicable to today but certainly was at the time.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  Mik
                  wrote on 8 Dec 2024, 22:59 last edited by Mik 12 Aug 2024, 23:01
                  #8

                  The Caller gets it right. He ate her lunch on pretty much every topic.

                  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/nbc-s-kristen-welker-hounded-trump-over-a-dozen-times-during-interview-about-whether-he-would-target-his-opponents/ar-AA1vuJl5

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    8 Dec 2024, 22:52

                    No, it isn't. It's one of the few things in the Constitution that I think may not be properly applicable to today but certainly was at the time.

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                    George K
                    wrote on 9 Dec 2024, 00:29 last edited by
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                    @Mik said in Trump speaks:

                    No, it isn't. It's one of the few things in the Constitution that I think may not be properly applicable to today but certainly was at the time.

                    The quesionable part is "under the jurisdiction." If Juanita is born to Mexican citizens, under whose jurisdiction does she fall?

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on 9 Dec 2024, 01:52 last edited by
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                      I don’t think it’s remotely questionable. Illegal aliens (as opposed to diplomats) get arrested if they commit crimes. NO ONE thinks they’re not subject to the legal jurisdiction where they find themselves. Certainly not the cops. Certainly not the courts. And certainly not the immigrants themselves.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on 9 Dec 2024, 01:56 last edited by
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                        Even originalism (as opposed to textualism) won’t save you. The big question there is whether the ‘subject to the jurisdiction thereof’ clause was excluding diplomats or Indians that were part of sovereign nations or both. No one thought it applied to the half starved family that showed up from County Cork last month.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on 9 Dec 2024, 02:17 last edited by
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                          Community Notes for the win. Again.

                          Only non-witches get due process.

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                            jon-nyc
                            wrote on 9 Dec 2024, 02:18 last edited by
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                            It’s those libtard TDS folks at Cato calling him out.

                            Only non-witches get due process.

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                              taiwan_girl
                              wrote on 9 Dec 2024, 03:51 last edited by
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                              Who needs facts? 😛

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                                Mik
                                wrote on 9 Dec 2024, 12:27 last edited by Mik 12 Sept 2024, 12:27
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                                Facts are SO 1992. We dispensed with them when Clinton was elected. But in any event, he was as honest as she was.

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  9 Dec 2024, 12:27

                                  Facts are SO 1992. We dispensed with them when Clinton was elected. But in any event, he was as honest as she was.

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                                  Doctor Phibes
                                  wrote on 9 Dec 2024, 13:15 last edited by Doctor Phibes 12 Sept 2024, 13:17
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                                  @Mik said in Trump speaks:

                                  Facts are SO 1992. We dispensed with them when Clinton was elected. But in any event, he was as honest as she was.

                                  Yes, I think it's clear we can blame Bill Clinton and the press for Trump being such a liar.

                                  Who takes responsibility for his awful man-makeup and hair, Reagan?

                                  I was only joking

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                                    9 Dec 2024, 13:15

                                    @Mik said in Trump speaks:

                                    Facts are SO 1992. We dispensed with them when Clinton was elected. But in any event, he was as honest as she was.

                                    Yes, I think it's clear we can blame Bill Clinton and the press for Trump being such a liar.

                                    Who takes responsibility for his awful man-makeup and hair, Reagan?

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                                    LuFins Dad
                                    wrote on 9 Dec 2024, 13:35 last edited by
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                                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Trump speaks:

                                    @Mik said in Trump speaks:
                                    Who takes responsibility for his awful man-makeup and hair, Reagan?

                                    Keep my president’s name out of your %#*+<{< mouth!

                                    The Brad

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                                      LuFins Dad
                                      wrote on 9 Dec 2024, 13:37 last edited by
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                                      And by the way, the community notes feature on Twitter is awesome.

                                      The Brad

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                                        Horace
                                        wrote on 9 Dec 2024, 14:02 last edited by
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                                        I'm not too worried about that departure from facts culled from a 70 minute interview, when all he intends to do in reaction to the non-factual narrative, is to enforce the law. A generous interpretation of it is that he intends to engage in hyperbole when he thinks it'll get eyeballs and minds on an issue he would like to address.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                          jon-nyc
                                          wrote on 9 Dec 2024, 14:10 last edited by
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                                          That would be too generous I think. Maga media pushed that hard. The original authors I assume knew they were lying. But most who just heard it repeated over and over probably assumed it was true. I suspect he’s in the latter category.

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

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