Trump speaks
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wrote on 8 Dec 2024, 22:59 last edited by Mik 12 Aug 2024, 23:01
The Caller gets it right. He ate her lunch on pretty much every topic.
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No, it isn't. It's one of the few things in the Constitution that I think may not be properly applicable to today but certainly was at the time.
wrote on 9 Dec 2024, 00:29 last edited by@Mik said in Trump speaks:
No, it isn't. It's one of the few things in the Constitution that I think may not be properly applicable to today but certainly was at the time.
The quesionable part is "under the jurisdiction." If Juanita is born to Mexican citizens, under whose jurisdiction does she fall?
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wrote on 9 Dec 2024, 01:52 last edited by
I don’t think it’s remotely questionable. Illegal aliens (as opposed to diplomats) get arrested if they commit crimes. NO ONE thinks they’re not subject to the legal jurisdiction where they find themselves. Certainly not the cops. Certainly not the courts. And certainly not the immigrants themselves.
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wrote on 9 Dec 2024, 01:56 last edited by
Even originalism (as opposed to textualism) won’t save you. The big question there is whether the ‘subject to the jurisdiction thereof’ clause was excluding diplomats or Indians that were part of sovereign nations or both. No one thought it applied to the half starved family that showed up from County Cork last month.
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Who needs facts?
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wrote on 9 Dec 2024, 12:27 last edited by Mik 12 Sept 2024, 12:27
Facts are SO 1992. We dispensed with them when Clinton was elected. But in any event, he was as honest as she was.
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Facts are SO 1992. We dispensed with them when Clinton was elected. But in any event, he was as honest as she was.
wrote on 9 Dec 2024, 13:15 last edited by Doctor Phibes 12 Sept 2024, 13:17@Mik said in Trump speaks:
Facts are SO 1992. We dispensed with them when Clinton was elected. But in any event, he was as honest as she was.
Yes, I think it's clear we can blame Bill Clinton and the press for Trump being such a liar.
Who takes responsibility for his awful man-makeup and hair, Reagan?
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@Mik said in Trump speaks:
Facts are SO 1992. We dispensed with them when Clinton was elected. But in any event, he was as honest as she was.
Yes, I think it's clear we can blame Bill Clinton and the press for Trump being such a liar.
Who takes responsibility for his awful man-makeup and hair, Reagan?
wrote on 9 Dec 2024, 13:35 last edited by@Doctor-Phibes said in Trump speaks:
@Mik said in Trump speaks:
Who takes responsibility for his awful man-makeup and hair, Reagan?Keep my president’s name out of your %#*+<{< mouth!
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wrote on 9 Dec 2024, 13:37 last edited by
And by the way, the community notes feature on Twitter is awesome.
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wrote on 9 Dec 2024, 14:02 last edited by
I'm not too worried about that departure from facts culled from a 70 minute interview, when all he intends to do in reaction to the non-factual narrative, is to enforce the law. A generous interpretation of it is that he intends to engage in hyperbole when he thinks it'll get eyeballs and minds on an issue he would like to address.
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wrote on 9 Dec 2024, 14:10 last edited by
That would be too generous I think. Maga media pushed that hard. The original authors I assume knew they were lying. But most who just heard it repeated over and over probably assumed it was true. I suspect he’s in the latter category.