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  • MikM Offline
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    Mik
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    On healthcare he might be a little disingenuous. But he got one thing right - healthcare is a whole different world than other businesses. Just understanding that is a step forward.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • George KG Offline
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      George K
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      #6

      Birthright citizenship isn't going away.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        No, it isn't. It's one of the few things in the Constitution that I think may not be properly applicable to today but certainly was at the time.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        • MikM Offline
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          Mik
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          #8

          The Caller gets it right. He ate her lunch on pretty much every topic.

          https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/nbc-s-kristen-welker-hounded-trump-over-a-dozen-times-during-interview-about-whether-he-would-target-his-opponents/ar-AA1vuJl5

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • MikM Mik

            No, it isn't. It's one of the few things in the Constitution that I think may not be properly applicable to today but certainly was at the time.

            George KG Offline
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            George K
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            @Mik said in Trump speaks:

            No, it isn't. It's one of the few things in the Constitution that I think may not be properly applicable to today but certainly was at the time.

            The quesionable part is "under the jurisdiction." If Juanita is born to Mexican citizens, under whose jurisdiction does she fall?

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              I don’t think it’s remotely questionable. Illegal aliens (as opposed to diplomats) get arrested if they commit crimes. NO ONE thinks they’re not subject to the legal jurisdiction where they find themselves. Certainly not the cops. Certainly not the courts. And certainly not the immigrants themselves.

              You were warned.

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                Even originalism (as opposed to textualism) won’t save you. The big question there is whether the ‘subject to the jurisdiction thereof’ clause was excluding diplomats or Indians that were part of sovereign nations or both. No one thought it applied to the half starved family that showed up from County Cork last month.

                You were warned.

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                • jon-nycJ Offline
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                  #12

                  Community Notes for the win. Again.

                  You were warned.

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                  • jon-nycJ Offline
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                    jon-nyc
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                    It’s those libtard TDS folks at Cato calling him out.

                    You were warned.

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                    • taiwan_girlT Offline
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                      Who needs facts? 😛

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                      • MikM Offline
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                        #15

                        Facts are SO 1992. We dispensed with them when Clinton was elected. But in any event, he was as honest as she was.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        • MikM Mik

                          Facts are SO 1992. We dispensed with them when Clinton was elected. But in any event, he was as honest as she was.

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                          @Mik said in Trump speaks:

                          Facts are SO 1992. We dispensed with them when Clinton was elected. But in any event, he was as honest as she was.

                          Yes, I think it's clear we can blame Bill Clinton and the press for Trump being such a liar.

                          Who takes responsibility for his awful man-makeup and hair, Reagan?

                          I was only joking

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                          • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                            @Mik said in Trump speaks:

                            Facts are SO 1992. We dispensed with them when Clinton was elected. But in any event, he was as honest as she was.

                            Yes, I think it's clear we can blame Bill Clinton and the press for Trump being such a liar.

                            Who takes responsibility for his awful man-makeup and hair, Reagan?

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                            LuFins Dad
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                            @Doctor-Phibes said in Trump speaks:

                            @Mik said in Trump speaks:
                            Who takes responsibility for his awful man-makeup and hair, Reagan?

                            Keep my president’s name out of your %#*+<{< mouth!

                            The Brad

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                              LuFins Dad
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                              And by the way, the community notes feature on Twitter is awesome.

                              The Brad

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                                I'm not too worried about that departure from facts culled from a 70 minute interview, when all he intends to do in reaction to the non-factual narrative, is to enforce the law. A generous interpretation of it is that he intends to engage in hyperbole when he thinks it'll get eyeballs and minds on an issue he would like to address.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                  That would be too generous I think. Maga media pushed that hard. The original authors I assume knew they were lying. But most who just heard it repeated over and over probably assumed it was true. I suspect he’s in the latter category.

                                  You were warned.

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