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The Hegseth "incident."

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    taiwan_girl
    wrote on 14 Jan 2025, 16:36 last edited by
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    Waiting for the "I have done nothing wrong but it is clear that this is a distraction to the great work that President Trump is going to do, so I am going to withdrawn my name for............"

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      13 Jan 2025, 14:20

      I guess I should have read that before making my confirmation prognostications. If he gets the ax, that’s good news for Gabbard.

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      Renauda
      wrote on 14 Jan 2025, 20:40 last edited by Renauda
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      @jon-nyc said in The Hegseth "incident.":

      I guess I should have read that before making my confirmation prognostications. If he gets the ax, that’s good news for Gabbard.

      Watched a bit of this morning’s interrogation of Hesgeth on BBC. Meh, a lot of theatre by all involved.

      I personally think that despite his baggage, Hesgeth is far less of a liability to the country risk than Gabbard. That woman should not have access to anything classified above Personal & Confidential.

      Elbows up!

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        jon-nyc
        wrote on 14 Jan 2025, 22:40 last edited by
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        Hegseth at least was in the service and has spent time thinking about it.

        She wasn’t in intelligence in the military, wasn’t on any intelligence committees, and she herself isn’t intelligent. She hasn’t even smelled experience from a distance.

        And then her fondness for Kremlin talking points….

        Only non-witches get due process.

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        • J jon-nyc
          14 Jan 2025, 22:40

          Hegseth at least was in the service and has spent time thinking about it.

          She wasn’t in intelligence in the military, wasn’t on any intelligence committees, and she herself isn’t intelligent. She hasn’t even smelled experience from a distance.

          And then her fondness for Kremlin talking points….

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          Renauda
          wrote on 15 Jan 2025, 00:11 last edited by Renauda
          #126

          @jon-nyc

          And then her fondness for Kremlin talking points….

          …I’m sure that’s an oblique reference to the onion domes adorning the many churches in the Kremlin itself.

          Elbows up!

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            LuFins Dad
            wrote on 15 Jan 2025, 00:50 last edited by
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            Frankly, I thought he looked pretty good from what I saw, and the Dems on the committee came across as petulant brats. Oh, and the onlookers that were removed? LMFAO!

            The Brad

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            • L LuFins Dad
              15 Jan 2025, 00:50

              Frankly, I thought he looked pretty good from what I saw, and the Dems on the committee came across as petulant brats. Oh, and the onlookers that were removed? LMFAO!

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              George K
              wrote on 15 Jan 2025, 01:01 last edited by George K
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              @LuFins-Dad said in The Hegseth "incident.":

              I thought he looked pretty good from what I saw

              I've expressed my skepticism of his nomination.

              the Dems on the committee came across as petulant brats

              And he was able to explain what a jag off is.

              ETA: MAJOR props to Hegseth for keeping his cool when asked that question.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                LuFins Dad
                wrote on 15 Jan 2025, 01:06 last edited by LuFins Dad
                #129

                By the way, despite what you think, Jagoff has nothing to do with the general perception of the term. It’s derived from Scots/Irish and simply means a jerk or idiot that likes to provoke. “He’s just jagging you…”

                The Brad

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                  George K
                  wrote on 15 Jan 2025, 02:32 last edited by
                  #130

                  Well, that settles it.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    taiwan_girl
                    wrote on 15 Jan 2025, 02:36 last edited by
                    #131

                    Isn't adultery in the US military grounds for dismissal? Just curious.

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                    • T taiwan_girl
                      15 Jan 2025, 02:36

                      Isn't adultery in the US military grounds for dismissal? Just curious.

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                      George K
                      wrote on 15 Jan 2025, 02:53 last edited by
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                      @taiwan_girl said in The Hegseth "incident.":

                      Isn't adultery in the US military grounds for dismissal? Just curious.

                      Don't know.

                      He wasn't a soldier when it happened, tho.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        taiwan_girl
                        wrote on 15 Jan 2025, 03:31 last edited by
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                        Hegseth, a 44-year-old Army National Guard veteran and former Fox News Channel weekend host, has acknowledged having multiple extramarital affairs — which occurred while he was in the military, according to divorce records — and has said he told his troops to ignore commands about when to fire on potential enemies. Both violate the Uniform Code of Military Justice and can get troops court-martialed and dishonorably discharged.

                        https://www.military.com/daily-news/2025/01/13/hegseth-could-lead-troops-whod-face-getting-fired-actions-hes-done-past.html

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                          15 Jan 2025, 03:31

                          Hegseth, a 44-year-old Army National Guard veteran and former Fox News Channel weekend host, has acknowledged having multiple extramarital affairs — which occurred while he was in the military, according to divorce records — and has said he told his troops to ignore commands about when to fire on potential enemies. Both violate the Uniform Code of Military Justice and can get troops court-martialed and dishonorably discharged.

                          https://www.military.com/daily-news/2025/01/13/hegseth-could-lead-troops-whod-face-getting-fired-actions-hes-done-past.html

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                          George K
                          wrote on 15 Jan 2025, 12:43 last edited by
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                          @taiwan_girl thanks. I wasn't aware of the timing.

                          Descending into "But Mom, he did it too" territory, if the military sent every philandering soldier to a court martial, we'd have to reinstitute the draft.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            LuFins Dad
                            wrote on 15 Jan 2025, 12:49 last edited by
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                            And the fact that he wasn’t reprimanded for countermanding the orders on when to open fire is very telling. It shows that some superior thought he was correct to do so.

                            The Brad

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                              LuFins Dad
                              wrote on 15 Jan 2025, 13:10 last edited by
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                              Gillibrand doesn’t find this to be an insult to women:
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                              So she’s kind of lost credibility on what is and isn’t an insult to women.

                              The Brad

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                                Jolly
                                wrote on 15 Jan 2025, 13:13 last edited by
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                                  15 Jan 2025, 13:10

                                  Gillibrand doesn’t find this to be an insult to women:
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                                  So she’s kind of lost credibility on what is and isn’t an insult to women.

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                                  89th
                                  wrote on 15 Jan 2025, 13:57 last edited by
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                                  @LuFins-Dad said in The Hegseth "incident.":

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                                  I will never ever ever ever understand how groupthink on the left made this even remotely acceptable.

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                                    LuFins Dad
                                    wrote on 15 Jan 2025, 14:33 last edited by
                                    #139

                                    Joni Ernst is on board. Collins and Murkowski are undecided, but with Ernst declaring support, it’s likely enough to push them over.

                                    The Brad

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                                      George K
                                      wrote on 15 Jan 2025, 15:18 last edited by
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                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        89th
                                        wrote on 15 Jan 2025, 15:39 last edited by
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                                        I'm a bit more concern that Hegseth didn't know what ASEAN is or what countries are included.

                                        That should be SecDef 101 stuff.

                                        I'm guessing he will be confirmed, but this confirmation hearing is playing out as expected... both sides cheerleading or criticizing him with some clear gaps in knowledge and decision making maturity.

                                        Article:

                                        https://www.yahoo.com/news/asean-stumped-hegseth-senate-hearing-080133857.html

                                        Link to video

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                                          15 Jan 2025, 15:39

                                          I'm a bit more concern that Hegseth didn't know what ASEAN is or what countries are included.

                                          That should be SecDef 101 stuff.

                                          I'm guessing he will be confirmed, but this confirmation hearing is playing out as expected... both sides cheerleading or criticizing him with some clear gaps in knowledge and decision making maturity.

                                          Article:

                                          https://www.yahoo.com/news/asean-stumped-hegseth-senate-hearing-080133857.html

                                          Link to video

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                                          George K
                                          wrote on 15 Jan 2025, 15:43 last edited by George K
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                                          @89th said in The Hegseth "incident.":

                                          I'm a bit more concern that Hegseth didn't know what ASEAN is or what countries are included.

                                          That should be SecDef 101 stuff.

                                          Yeah. I thought of that as his "Aleppo" moment. Can you imagine Sen. Kennedy grilling someone on that?

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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