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The Hegseth "incident."

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  • taiwan_girlT Offline
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    #123

    Waiting for the "I have done nothing wrong but it is clear that this is a distraction to the great work that President Trump is going to do, so I am going to withdrawn my name for............"

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    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

      I guess I should have read that before making my confirmation prognostications. If he gets the ax, that’s good news for Gabbard.

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      #124

      @jon-nyc said in The Hegseth "incident.":

      I guess I should have read that before making my confirmation prognostications. If he gets the ax, that’s good news for Gabbard.

      Watched a bit of this morning’s interrogation of Hesgeth on BBC. Meh, a lot of theatre by all involved.

      I personally think that despite his baggage, Hesgeth is far less of a liability to the country risk than Gabbard. That woman should not have access to anything classified above Personal & Confidential.

      Elbows up!

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        Hegseth at least was in the service and has spent time thinking about it.

        She wasn’t in intelligence in the military, wasn’t on any intelligence committees, and she herself isn’t intelligent. She hasn’t even smelled experience from a distance.

        And then her fondness for Kremlin talking points….

        Only non-witches get due process.

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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          Hegseth at least was in the service and has spent time thinking about it.

          She wasn’t in intelligence in the military, wasn’t on any intelligence committees, and she herself isn’t intelligent. She hasn’t even smelled experience from a distance.

          And then her fondness for Kremlin talking points….

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          #126

          @jon-nyc

          And then her fondness for Kremlin talking points….

          …I’m sure that’s an oblique reference to the onion domes adorning the many churches in the Kremlin itself.

          Elbows up!

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          • LuFins DadL Offline
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            #127

            Frankly, I thought he looked pretty good from what I saw, and the Dems on the committee came across as petulant brats. Oh, and the onlookers that were removed? LMFAO!

            The Brad

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            • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

              Frankly, I thought he looked pretty good from what I saw, and the Dems on the committee came across as petulant brats. Oh, and the onlookers that were removed? LMFAO!

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              George K
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              #128

              @LuFins-Dad said in The Hegseth "incident.":

              I thought he looked pretty good from what I saw

              I've expressed my skepticism of his nomination.

              the Dems on the committee came across as petulant brats

              And he was able to explain what a jag off is.

              ETA: MAJOR props to Hegseth for keeping his cool when asked that question.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                #129

                By the way, despite what you think, Jagoff has nothing to do with the general perception of the term. It’s derived from Scots/Irish and simply means a jerk or idiot that likes to provoke. “He’s just jagging you…”

                The Brad

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                • George KG Offline
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                  #130

                  Well, that settles it.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • taiwan_girlT Offline
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                    #131

                    Isn't adultery in the US military grounds for dismissal? Just curious.

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                    • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                      Isn't adultery in the US military grounds for dismissal? Just curious.

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                      @taiwan_girl said in The Hegseth "incident.":

                      Isn't adultery in the US military grounds for dismissal? Just curious.

                      Don't know.

                      He wasn't a soldier when it happened, tho.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        Hegseth, a 44-year-old Army National Guard veteran and former Fox News Channel weekend host, has acknowledged having multiple extramarital affairs — which occurred while he was in the military, according to divorce records — and has said he told his troops to ignore commands about when to fire on potential enemies. Both violate the Uniform Code of Military Justice and can get troops court-martialed and dishonorably discharged.

                        https://www.military.com/daily-news/2025/01/13/hegseth-could-lead-troops-whod-face-getting-fired-actions-hes-done-past.html

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                        • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                          Hegseth, a 44-year-old Army National Guard veteran and former Fox News Channel weekend host, has acknowledged having multiple extramarital affairs — which occurred while he was in the military, according to divorce records — and has said he told his troops to ignore commands about when to fire on potential enemies. Both violate the Uniform Code of Military Justice and can get troops court-martialed and dishonorably discharged.

                          https://www.military.com/daily-news/2025/01/13/hegseth-could-lead-troops-whod-face-getting-fired-actions-hes-done-past.html

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                          @taiwan_girl thanks. I wasn't aware of the timing.

                          Descending into "But Mom, he did it too" territory, if the military sent every philandering soldier to a court martial, we'd have to reinstitute the draft.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            And the fact that he wasn’t reprimanded for countermanding the orders on when to open fire is very telling. It shows that some superior thought he was correct to do so.

                            The Brad

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                              Gillibrand doesn’t find this to be an insult to women:
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                              So she’s kind of lost credibility on what is and isn’t an insult to women.

                              The Brad

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                                • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                  Gillibrand doesn’t find this to be an insult to women:
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                                  So she’s kind of lost credibility on what is and isn’t an insult to women.

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                                  @LuFins-Dad said in The Hegseth "incident.":

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                                  I will never ever ever ever understand how groupthink on the left made this even remotely acceptable.

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                                  • LuFins DadL Offline
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                                    LuFins Dad
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                                    Joni Ernst is on board. Collins and Murkowski are undecided, but with Ernst declaring support, it’s likely enough to push them over.

                                    The Brad

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                                    • George KG Offline
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                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        I'm a bit more concern that Hegseth didn't know what ASEAN is or what countries are included.

                                        That should be SecDef 101 stuff.

                                        I'm guessing he will be confirmed, but this confirmation hearing is playing out as expected... both sides cheerleading or criticizing him with some clear gaps in knowledge and decision making maturity.

                                        Article:

                                        https://www.yahoo.com/news/asean-stumped-hegseth-senate-hearing-080133857.html

                                        Link to video

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                                        • 89th8 89th

                                          I'm a bit more concern that Hegseth didn't know what ASEAN is or what countries are included.

                                          That should be SecDef 101 stuff.

                                          I'm guessing he will be confirmed, but this confirmation hearing is playing out as expected... both sides cheerleading or criticizing him with some clear gaps in knowledge and decision making maturity.

                                          Article:

                                          https://www.yahoo.com/news/asean-stumped-hegseth-senate-hearing-080133857.html

                                          Link to video

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                                          @89th said in The Hegseth "incident.":

                                          I'm a bit more concern that Hegseth didn't know what ASEAN is or what countries are included.

                                          That should be SecDef 101 stuff.

                                          Yeah. I thought of that as his "Aleppo" moment. Can you imagine Sen. Kennedy grilling someone on that?

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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