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  • J jon-nyc
    21 Nov 2024, 21:29

    Around she fucked. Find out she did.

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    89th
    wrote on 22 Nov 2024, 14:16 last edited by 89th
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    @jon-nyc said in The man who shot Ashley Babbit:

    Around she fucked. Find out she did.

    Yup.

    Imagine for a moment that in February 2025, a BLM mob hops the white house fence and a BLM chick (with her closest 100 friends) were trying to break down the front door where Trump is inside, and behind the glass door there were cops pointing guns saying "don't come in here we will shoot"...and then the BLM chick breaks down the door starts to go in with her 100 closest friends behind her.

    Good shooting. It's a shame she caused it. But FAFO, for sure.

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      George K
      wrote on 22 Nov 2024, 15:06 last edited by
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      Imagine a police officer, at least five times a failure and disciplined, shooting into a crowd when he saw no weapon, with police officers in the crowd, killing one of them, having never given a warning.

      Just for the sake of completeness.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • 8 89th
        22 Nov 2024, 14:16

        @jon-nyc said in The man who shot Ashley Babbit:

        Around she fucked. Find out she did.

        Yup.

        Imagine for a moment that in February 2025, a BLM mob hops the white house fence and a BLM chick (with her closest 100 friends) were trying to break down the front door where Trump is inside, and behind the glass door there were cops pointing guns saying "don't come in here we will shoot"...and then the BLM chick breaks down the door starts to go in with her 100 closest friends behind her.

        Good shooting. It's a shame she caused it. But FAFO, for sure.

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        Jolly
        wrote on 22 Nov 2024, 15:18 last edited by
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        @89th said in The man who shot Ashley Babbit:

        @jon-nyc said in The man who shot Ashley Babbit:

        Around she fucked. Find out she did.

        Yup.

        Imagine for a moment that in February 2025, a BLM mob hops the white house fence and a BLM chick (with her closest 100 friends) were trying to break down the front door where Trump is inside, and behind the glass door there were cops pointing guns saying "don't come in here we will shoot"...and then the BLM chick breaks down the door starts to go in with her 100 closest friends behind her.

        Good shooting. It's a shame she caused it. But FAFO, for sure.

        I think the shooting was marginal, as to whether it's justified to shoot an unarmed person.

        But I'm sorry, you're either supremely ignorant or fucking stupid when it comes to firearms. Byrd carried a Glock 22. Typical penetration of the 180g HP service round is 18+ inches. IOW, a hole going in and a bigger hole going out.

        The only reason that dumb fuck didn't kill somebody else was the Grace of God.

        BTW, you DO KNOW capitol police had been ordered not to use lethal force, correct?

        https://us.glock.com/en/Pistols/G22

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          George K
          wrote on 22 Nov 2024, 15:23 last edited by
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          Also, I'm not defending Babbitt's behavior or actions. Not by a long (ahem) shot.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • G George K
            22 Nov 2024, 15:06

            Imagine a police officer, at least five times a failure and disciplined, shooting into a crowd when he saw no weapon, with police officers in the crowd, killing one of them, having never given a warning.

            Just for the sake of completeness.

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            jon-nyc
            wrote on 22 Nov 2024, 15:25 last edited by
            #10

            @George-K

            Any ol’ random crowd? Or a violent one breaking into a restricted area of the capitol?

            Only non-witches get due process.

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            • J Jolly
              22 Nov 2024, 15:18

              @89th said in The man who shot Ashley Babbit:

              @jon-nyc said in The man who shot Ashley Babbit:

              Around she fucked. Find out she did.

              Yup.

              Imagine for a moment that in February 2025, a BLM mob hops the white house fence and a BLM chick (with her closest 100 friends) were trying to break down the front door where Trump is inside, and behind the glass door there were cops pointing guns saying "don't come in here we will shoot"...and then the BLM chick breaks down the door starts to go in with her 100 closest friends behind her.

              Good shooting. It's a shame she caused it. But FAFO, for sure.

              I think the shooting was marginal, as to whether it's justified to shoot an unarmed person.

              But I'm sorry, you're either supremely ignorant or fucking stupid when it comes to firearms. Byrd carried a Glock 22. Typical penetration of the 180g HP service round is 18+ inches. IOW, a hole going in and a bigger hole going out.

              The only reason that dumb fuck didn't kill somebody else was the Grace of God.

              BTW, you DO KNOW capitol police had been ordered not to use lethal force, correct?

              https://us.glock.com/en/Pistols/G22

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              George K
              wrote on 22 Nov 2024, 15:25 last edited by
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              @Jolly said in The man who shot Ashley Babbit:

              BTW, you DO KNOW capitol police had been ordered not to use lethal force, correct?

              Really? I was unaware. Can you point me to that?

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • J jon-nyc
                22 Nov 2024, 15:25

                @George-K

                Any ol’ random crowd? Or a violent one breaking into a restricted area of the capitol?

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                George K
                wrote on 22 Nov 2024, 15:26 last edited by
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                @jon-nyc said in The man who shot Ashley Babbit:

                Any ol’ random crowd? Or a violent one breaking into a restricted area of the capitol?

                With cops in back of the person being shot.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on 22 Nov 2024, 15:26 last edited by
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                  Seems like a non-answer.

                  Only non-witches get due process.

                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                  • J jon-nyc
                    22 Nov 2024, 15:26

                    Seems like a non-answer.

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                    George K
                    wrote on 22 Nov 2024, 15:29 last edited by
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                    @jon-nyc said in The man who shot Ashley Babbit:

                    Seems like a non-answer.

                    I suppose you can say that. Byrd did not aim at any person specifically, he fired into the crowd. Whether he knew there were other USCP behind Babbitt is open to speculation.

                    But there were.

                    And that, along with his rather profound history of questionable behavior. is why I call it reckless.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on 22 Nov 2024, 15:37 last edited by
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                      It worked. It stopped them.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                        89th
                        wrote on 22 Nov 2024, 15:40 last edited by
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                        Yup, stopped that breach. It worked.

                        And not a random crowd.

                        Watch the video... as the crowd is breaking through security glass with chairs and flag poles, security on the other side, people yelling "he has a gun!!".... but yes, let's breach through the barrier, what's the worse that can happen?

                        Link to video

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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on 22 Nov 2024, 15:42 last edited by jon-nyc
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                          Just a random crowd, like you might see around an ice cream truck at the park on a hot day.

                          Only non-witches get due process.

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                          • J Jolly
                            22 Nov 2024, 15:18

                            @89th said in The man who shot Ashley Babbit:

                            @jon-nyc said in The man who shot Ashley Babbit:

                            Around she fucked. Find out she did.

                            Yup.

                            Imagine for a moment that in February 2025, a BLM mob hops the white house fence and a BLM chick (with her closest 100 friends) were trying to break down the front door where Trump is inside, and behind the glass door there were cops pointing guns saying "don't come in here we will shoot"...and then the BLM chick breaks down the door starts to go in with her 100 closest friends behind her.

                            Good shooting. It's a shame she caused it. But FAFO, for sure.

                            I think the shooting was marginal, as to whether it's justified to shoot an unarmed person.

                            But I'm sorry, you're either supremely ignorant or fucking stupid when it comes to firearms. Byrd carried a Glock 22. Typical penetration of the 180g HP service round is 18+ inches. IOW, a hole going in and a bigger hole going out.

                            The only reason that dumb fuck didn't kill somebody else was the Grace of God.

                            BTW, you DO KNOW capitol police had been ordered not to use lethal force, correct?

                            https://us.glock.com/en/Pistols/G22

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                            89th
                            wrote on 22 Nov 2024, 15:44 last edited by
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                            @Jolly said in The man who shot Ashley Babbit:

                            The only reason that dumb fuck didn't kill somebody else was the Grace of God.

                            He also shot when she was up above the others going through the breached window. Yes the bullet could've ricocheted, but in general the visual of "he shot into a random crowd" is not accurate.

                            Here's my very scientific visual of why it wasn't just a "shot into the crowd".

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                            • G George K
                              22 Nov 2024, 15:29

                              @jon-nyc said in The man who shot Ashley Babbit:

                              Seems like a non-answer.

                              I suppose you can say that. Byrd did not aim at any person specifically, he fired into the crowd. Whether he knew there were other USCP behind Babbitt is open to speculation.

                              But there were.

                              And that, along with his rather profound history of questionable behavior. is why I call it reckless.

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                              Horace
                              wrote on 22 Nov 2024, 15:44 last edited by
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                              @George-K said in The man who shot Ashley Babbit:

                              @jon-nyc said in The man who shot Ashley Babbit:

                              Seems like a non-answer.

                              I suppose you can say that. Byrd did not aim at any person specifically, he fired into the crowd. Whether he knew there were other USCP behind Babbitt is open to speculation.

                              But there were.

                              And that, along with his rather profound history of questionable behavior. is why I call it reckless.

                              We should keep in mind that the Capitol police had a culture of pathetic weakness, to the extent that most of them committed suicide after having been called upon to do their jobs. It is heart breaking, but they were the worst of us.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                              • G George K
                                22 Nov 2024, 15:29

                                @jon-nyc said in The man who shot Ashley Babbit:

                                Seems like a non-answer.

                                I suppose you can say that. Byrd did not aim at any person specifically, he fired into the crowd. Whether he knew there were other USCP behind Babbitt is open to speculation.

                                But there were.

                                And that, along with his rather profound history of questionable behavior. is why I call it reckless.

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                                89th
                                wrote on 22 Nov 2024, 15:46 last edited by 89th
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                                @George-K said in The man who shot Ashley Babbit:

                                I suppose you can say that. Byrd did not aim at any person specifically, he fired into the crowd.

                                What?

                                If that is true, then I apologize. I figured he aimed at Babbit as she breached the top of the doorway. (I'm not being sarcastic)

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                                • 8 89th
                                  22 Nov 2024, 15:40

                                  Yup, stopped that breach. It worked.

                                  And not a random crowd.

                                  Watch the video... as the crowd is breaking through security glass with chairs and flag poles, security on the other side, people yelling "he has a gun!!".... but yes, let's breach through the barrier, what's the worse that can happen?

                                  Link to video

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                                  Horace
                                  wrote on 22 Nov 2024, 16:06 last edited by
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                                  @89th said in The man who shot Ashley Babbit:

                                  Yup, stopped that breach. It worked.

                                  And not a random crowd.

                                  Watch the video... as the crowd is breaking through security glass with chairs and flag poles, security on the other side, people yelling "he has a gun!!".... but yes, let's breach through the barrier, what's the worse that can happen?

                                  Link to video

                                  Seems like a fair shooting to me. The crowd was obviously willing to be violent, given how they were attacking the fortifications.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                    Doctor Phibes
                                    wrote on 22 Nov 2024, 16:34 last edited by
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                                    I remain surprised that a lot more people didn't die on that day.

                                    I was only joking

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                                      Jolly
                                      wrote on 22 Nov 2024, 16:35 last edited by
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                                      On firearms knowledge and the use of lethal force, I'll take on any three of you.

                                      Pick your team.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        89th
                                        wrote on 22 Nov 2024, 16:54 last edited by
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                                        Again Jolly, let's pretend this is Feb 2025.

                                        Imagine for a moment that in February 2025, a BLM mob hops the white house fence and a BLM chick (with her closest 100 friends) were trying to break down the front door where Trump is inside, and behind the glass door there were cops pointing guns saying "don't come in here we will shoot"...and then the BLM chick breaks down the door starts to go in with her 100 closest friends behind her.

                                        And the white house secret service opens fire after the multiple violent breaches (unknown weapons) against the first person to break through.

                                        I 1,000,000,000% guarantee you would say the secret service was justified to open fire at that point to defend Trump in the white house.

                                        Yes a billion percent.

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                                        • J Jolly
                                          22 Nov 2024, 16:35

                                          On firearms knowledge and the use of lethal force, I'll take on any three of you.

                                          Pick your team.

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                                          Horace
                                          wrote on 22 Nov 2024, 16:54 last edited by
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                                          @Jolly said in The man who shot Ashley Babbit:

                                          On firearms knowledge and the use of lethal force, I'll take on any three of you.

                                          Pick your team.

                                          I'm not attempting to claim any expertise except in my demonstrated expertise in not getting shot so far. If I was part of a mob violently breaking into a government building, and cops were standing behind the fortifications holding guns, I would think to myself that I might get shot here.

                                          If you would like to argue about legal intricacies around fair use of lethal force, then at that point I think I know enough to know that the law is whatever a jury can be convinced to think in any given case, and for this case, good luck getting a jury to convict the officer.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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