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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
    wrote on last edited by George K
    #5

    Ammo for the lawsuit. Byrd was supremely unqualified to be carrying a firearm, let alone be a Capitol Police officer.

    • A 2004 incident where Byrd, who was off duty, fired his weapon at a stolen vehicle as it was fleeing his residential neighborhood;
    • A 2015 "conduct unbecoming an officer" complaint filed by a fellow officer after Byrd, again off duty, confronted him while the officer was working at a high school football game in an incident with racial overtones;
    • A 33-day suspension in 2019 after Byrd left his service weapon unattended in a public Capitol Hill bathroom;
    • A failure to pass a routine background check shortly after Jan. 6 when attempting to purchase a shotgun for home protection, after the USCP worked to provide Byrd a department-issued shotgun instead, he failed the training; and
    • Three further referrals to the Capitol Police Office of Professional Responsibility for which records are reportedly missing.

    The man was (pardon the expression) a loose cannon.

    ETA: "Missing records..."

    Snort.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

      Around she fucked. Find out she did.

      89th8 Online
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      89th
      wrote on last edited by 89th
      #6

      @jon-nyc said in The man who shot Ashley Babbit:

      Around she fucked. Find out she did.

      Yup.

      Imagine for a moment that in February 2025, a BLM mob hops the white house fence and a BLM chick (with her closest 100 friends) were trying to break down the front door where Trump is inside, and behind the glass door there were cops pointing guns saying "don't come in here we will shoot"...and then the BLM chick breaks down the door starts to go in with her 100 closest friends behind her.

      Good shooting. It's a shame she caused it. But FAFO, for sure.

      JollyJ 1 Reply Last reply
      • George KG Offline
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        George K
        wrote on last edited by
        #7

        Imagine a police officer, at least five times a failure and disciplined, shooting into a crowd when he saw no weapon, with police officers in the crowd, killing one of them, having never given a warning.

        Just for the sake of completeness.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • 89th8 89th

          @jon-nyc said in The man who shot Ashley Babbit:

          Around she fucked. Find out she did.

          Yup.

          Imagine for a moment that in February 2025, a BLM mob hops the white house fence and a BLM chick (with her closest 100 friends) were trying to break down the front door where Trump is inside, and behind the glass door there were cops pointing guns saying "don't come in here we will shoot"...and then the BLM chick breaks down the door starts to go in with her 100 closest friends behind her.

          Good shooting. It's a shame she caused it. But FAFO, for sure.

          JollyJ Offline
          JollyJ Offline
          Jolly
          wrote on last edited by
          #8

          @89th said in The man who shot Ashley Babbit:

          @jon-nyc said in The man who shot Ashley Babbit:

          Around she fucked. Find out she did.

          Yup.

          Imagine for a moment that in February 2025, a BLM mob hops the white house fence and a BLM chick (with her closest 100 friends) were trying to break down the front door where Trump is inside, and behind the glass door there were cops pointing guns saying "don't come in here we will shoot"...and then the BLM chick breaks down the door starts to go in with her 100 closest friends behind her.

          Good shooting. It's a shame she caused it. But FAFO, for sure.

          I think the shooting was marginal, as to whether it's justified to shoot an unarmed person.

          But I'm sorry, you're either supremely ignorant or fucking stupid when it comes to firearms. Byrd carried a Glock 22. Typical penetration of the 180g HP service round is 18+ inches. IOW, a hole going in and a bigger hole going out.

          The only reason that dumb fuck didn't kill somebody else was the Grace of God.

          BTW, you DO KNOW capitol police had been ordered not to use lethal force, correct?

          https://us.glock.com/en/Pistols/G22

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

          George KG 89th8 taiwan_girlT 3 Replies Last reply
          • George KG Offline
            George KG Offline
            George K
            wrote on last edited by
            #9

            Also, I'm not defending Babbitt's behavior or actions. Not by a long (ahem) shot.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • George KG George K

              Imagine a police officer, at least five times a failure and disciplined, shooting into a crowd when he saw no weapon, with police officers in the crowd, killing one of them, having never given a warning.

              Just for the sake of completeness.

              jon-nycJ Offline
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              jon-nyc
              wrote on last edited by
              #10

              @George-K

              Any ol’ random crowd? Or a violent one breaking into a restricted area of the capitol?

              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              • JollyJ Jolly

                @89th said in The man who shot Ashley Babbit:

                @jon-nyc said in The man who shot Ashley Babbit:

                Around she fucked. Find out she did.

                Yup.

                Imagine for a moment that in February 2025, a BLM mob hops the white house fence and a BLM chick (with her closest 100 friends) were trying to break down the front door where Trump is inside, and behind the glass door there were cops pointing guns saying "don't come in here we will shoot"...and then the BLM chick breaks down the door starts to go in with her 100 closest friends behind her.

                Good shooting. It's a shame she caused it. But FAFO, for sure.

                I think the shooting was marginal, as to whether it's justified to shoot an unarmed person.

                But I'm sorry, you're either supremely ignorant or fucking stupid when it comes to firearms. Byrd carried a Glock 22. Typical penetration of the 180g HP service round is 18+ inches. IOW, a hole going in and a bigger hole going out.

                The only reason that dumb fuck didn't kill somebody else was the Grace of God.

                BTW, you DO KNOW capitol police had been ordered not to use lethal force, correct?

                https://us.glock.com/en/Pistols/G22

                George KG Offline
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                George K
                wrote on last edited by
                #11

                @Jolly said in The man who shot Ashley Babbit:

                BTW, you DO KNOW capitol police had been ordered not to use lethal force, correct?

                Really? I was unaware. Can you point me to that?

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                  @George-K

                  Any ol’ random crowd? Or a violent one breaking into a restricted area of the capitol?

                  George KG Offline
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                  George K
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #12

                  @jon-nyc said in The man who shot Ashley Babbit:

                  Any ol’ random crowd? Or a violent one breaking into a restricted area of the capitol?

                  With cops in back of the person being shot.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • jon-nycJ Offline
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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #13

                    Seems like a non-answer.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
                    George KG 1 Reply Last reply
                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                      Seems like a non-answer.

                      George KG Offline
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                      George K
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #14

                      @jon-nyc said in The man who shot Ashley Babbit:

                      Seems like a non-answer.

                      I suppose you can say that. Byrd did not aim at any person specifically, he fired into the crowd. Whether he knew there were other USCP behind Babbitt is open to speculation.

                      But there were.

                      And that, along with his rather profound history of questionable behavior. is why I call it reckless.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

                      HoraceH 89th8 2 Replies Last reply
                      • jon-nycJ Offline
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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #15

                        It worked. It stopped them.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        • 89th8 Online
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                          89th
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                          #16

                          Yup, stopped that breach. It worked.

                          And not a random crowd.

                          Watch the video... as the crowd is breaking through security glass with chairs and flag poles, security on the other side, people yelling "he has a gun!!".... but yes, let's breach through the barrier, what's the worse that can happen?

                          Link to video

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                          • jon-nycJ Offline
                            jon-nycJ Offline
                            jon-nyc
                            wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
                            #17

                            Just a random crowd, like you might see around an ice cream truck at the park on a hot day.

                            Only non-witches get due process.

                            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                            • JollyJ Jolly

                              @89th said in The man who shot Ashley Babbit:

                              @jon-nyc said in The man who shot Ashley Babbit:

                              Around she fucked. Find out she did.

                              Yup.

                              Imagine for a moment that in February 2025, a BLM mob hops the white house fence and a BLM chick (with her closest 100 friends) were trying to break down the front door where Trump is inside, and behind the glass door there were cops pointing guns saying "don't come in here we will shoot"...and then the BLM chick breaks down the door starts to go in with her 100 closest friends behind her.

                              Good shooting. It's a shame she caused it. But FAFO, for sure.

                              I think the shooting was marginal, as to whether it's justified to shoot an unarmed person.

                              But I'm sorry, you're either supremely ignorant or fucking stupid when it comes to firearms. Byrd carried a Glock 22. Typical penetration of the 180g HP service round is 18+ inches. IOW, a hole going in and a bigger hole going out.

                              The only reason that dumb fuck didn't kill somebody else was the Grace of God.

                              BTW, you DO KNOW capitol police had been ordered not to use lethal force, correct?

                              https://us.glock.com/en/Pistols/G22

                              89th8 Online
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                              89th
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                              #18

                              @Jolly said in The man who shot Ashley Babbit:

                              The only reason that dumb fuck didn't kill somebody else was the Grace of God.

                              He also shot when she was up above the others going through the breached window. Yes the bullet could've ricocheted, but in general the visual of "he shot into a random crowd" is not accurate.

                              Here's my very scientific visual of why it wasn't just a "shot into the crowd".

                              42ecf280-add6-4c61-a0f3-e8990bf8dc7e-image.png

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                              • George KG George K

                                @jon-nyc said in The man who shot Ashley Babbit:

                                Seems like a non-answer.

                                I suppose you can say that. Byrd did not aim at any person specifically, he fired into the crowd. Whether he knew there were other USCP behind Babbitt is open to speculation.

                                But there were.

                                And that, along with his rather profound history of questionable behavior. is why I call it reckless.

                                HoraceH Offline
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                                Horace
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                                #19

                                @George-K said in The man who shot Ashley Babbit:

                                @jon-nyc said in The man who shot Ashley Babbit:

                                Seems like a non-answer.

                                I suppose you can say that. Byrd did not aim at any person specifically, he fired into the crowd. Whether he knew there were other USCP behind Babbitt is open to speculation.

                                But there were.

                                And that, along with his rather profound history of questionable behavior. is why I call it reckless.

                                We should keep in mind that the Capitol police had a culture of pathetic weakness, to the extent that most of them committed suicide after having been called upon to do their jobs. It is heart breaking, but they were the worst of us.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                • George KG George K

                                  @jon-nyc said in The man who shot Ashley Babbit:

                                  Seems like a non-answer.

                                  I suppose you can say that. Byrd did not aim at any person specifically, he fired into the crowd. Whether he knew there were other USCP behind Babbitt is open to speculation.

                                  But there were.

                                  And that, along with his rather profound history of questionable behavior. is why I call it reckless.

                                  89th8 Online
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                                  89th
                                  wrote on last edited by 89th
                                  #20

                                  @George-K said in The man who shot Ashley Babbit:

                                  I suppose you can say that. Byrd did not aim at any person specifically, he fired into the crowd.

                                  What?

                                  If that is true, then I apologize. I figured he aimed at Babbit as she breached the top of the doorway. (I'm not being sarcastic)

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                                  • 89th8 89th

                                    Yup, stopped that breach. It worked.

                                    And not a random crowd.

                                    Watch the video... as the crowd is breaking through security glass with chairs and flag poles, security on the other side, people yelling "he has a gun!!".... but yes, let's breach through the barrier, what's the worse that can happen?

                                    Link to video

                                    HoraceH Offline
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                                    Horace
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #21

                                    @89th said in The man who shot Ashley Babbit:

                                    Yup, stopped that breach. It worked.

                                    And not a random crowd.

                                    Watch the video... as the crowd is breaking through security glass with chairs and flag poles, security on the other side, people yelling "he has a gun!!".... but yes, let's breach through the barrier, what's the worse that can happen?

                                    Link to video

                                    Seems like a fair shooting to me. The crowd was obviously willing to be violent, given how they were attacking the fortifications.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                    • Doctor PhibesD Online
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                                      I remain surprised that a lot more people didn't die on that day.

                                      I was only joking

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                                      • JollyJ Offline
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                                        #23

                                        On firearms knowledge and the use of lethal force, I'll take on any three of you.

                                        Pick your team.

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        • 89th8 Online
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                                          89th
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                                          #24

                                          Again Jolly, let's pretend this is Feb 2025.

                                          Imagine for a moment that in February 2025, a BLM mob hops the white house fence and a BLM chick (with her closest 100 friends) were trying to break down the front door where Trump is inside, and behind the glass door there were cops pointing guns saying "don't come in here we will shoot"...and then the BLM chick breaks down the door starts to go in with her 100 closest friends behind her.

                                          And the white house secret service opens fire after the multiple violent breaches (unknown weapons) against the first person to break through.

                                          I 1,000,000,000% guarantee you would say the secret service was justified to open fire at that point to defend Trump in the white house.

                                          Yes a billion percent.

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