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What a difference three years makes

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  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

    @Jolly

    I think his most recent comment is something like ‘I’m not anti-vax, I’m just against all the existing vaccines.’

    That is anti-vaxx by any reasonable definition. He puts lipstick on the pig sometimes but with friendly audiences it comes off and he’ll describe how he approaches strangers with babies and implores them not to vaccinate their kids.

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    @jon-nyc said in What a difference three years makes:

    He puts lipstick on the pig sometimes…

    He’s also a lawyer and pretty good at getting his point across without crossing the line into defamation.

    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
    -Cormac McCarthy

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      Could somebody please link me to an RFK policy position on vaccines?

      The Brad

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        Again it depends on the audience. Normies or cranks? The message changes.

        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
        -Cormac McCarthy

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          This is a decent start. It’s his organization. They changed the name from ‘World Mercury Project’ to something a little more general sounding.

          But read the exec staff bios and it’s clear what animates them.

          https://childrenshealthdefense.org/about-us/our-team/

          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
          -Cormac McCarthy

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            #12

            His CEO’s bio is a perfect example of getting the point across without engaging in defamation. Behold:

            As Chief Executive Officer of Children’s Health Defense, Mary Holland has been involved in the vaccine choice and health freedom movement for more than two decades. “Once I learned about the extreme liability protection that industry and healthcare providers enjoy and the suppression of accurate science and information about vaccine risk and injury, I understood the need for immediate, radical systemic change. I’ve been devoted to that change ever since.”

            Like CHD, Holland seeks to end the epidemic of chronic childhood diseases, hold those responsible accountable, and create safeguards so that these epidemics never happen again. Through its education, advocacy, litigation and research, CHD challenges federal and state governments, pharmaceutical companies, corporations and corrupt regulatory agencies to end the practices that are harming children’s health. In the age of COVID, CHD’s mission to protect health, especially infants’ and children’s health, has never been more important.

            They don’t come right out and say that the vaccines cause chronic illness in kids. But their point isn’t lost on the reader.

            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
            -Cormac McCarthy

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              So, we're not quite sure what his position is?

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                jon-nyc
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                Measles vaccine is “a holocaust”.

                https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/rfk-jrs-vaccines-holocaust-insanity-wesley-j-smith/

                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                -Cormac McCarthy

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                • JollyJ Jolly

                  So, we're not quite sure what his position is?

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                  @Jolly said in What a difference three years makes:

                  So, we're not quite sure what his position is?

                  I bet you’ll ultimately be happy when he’s not confirmed because part of you, maybe subconsciously, must resent the fact that Trump has made you feel the need to sane-wash RFK Jr.

                  "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                  -Cormac McCarthy

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                    To beat Harris, I don't care if he has cloven hooves and horns.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      In the United States babies dont get TB and Smallpox vaccines.

                      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                      -Cormac McCarthy

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                        babies get "dozens and dozens of vaccines"?? 🤦

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                        • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                          babies get "dozens and dozens of vaccines"?? 🤦

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                          @taiwan_girl said in What a difference three years makes:

                          babies get "dozens and dozens of vaccines"?? 🤦


                          Birth to 6 Years Old
                          1. Hepatitis B (HepB)
                          • Protects against hepatitis B.
                          • Given at birth, 1–2 months, and 6–18 months.
                          2. Rotavirus (RV)
                          • Protects against severe diarrhea.
                          • Two or three doses depending on the vaccine type, given at 2 months and 4 months (and 6 months if needed).
                          3. Diphtheria, Tetanus, and Pertussis (DTaP)
                          • Protects against diphtheria, tetanus, and pertussis (whooping cough).
                          • Five doses given at 2 months, 4 months, 6 months, 15–18 months, and 4–6 years.
                          4. Haemophilus influenzae type b (Hib)
                          • Protects against bacterial infections such as meningitis.
                          • Given at 2 months, 4 months, (6 months if required), and 12–15 months.
                          5. Pneumococcal Conjugate (PCV13)
                          • Protects against pneumococcal infections like pneumonia and meningitis.
                          • Given at 2 months, 4 months, 6 months, and 12–15 months.
                          6. Polio (IPV)
                          • Protects against poliomyelitis.
                          • Given at 2 months, 4 months, 6–18 months, and 4–6 years.
                          7. Influenza (Flu)
                          • Protects against seasonal flu.
                          • Annual vaccine starting at 6 months.
                          8. Measles, Mumps, Rubella (MMR)
                          • Protects against measles, mumps, and rubella.
                          • Given at 12–15 months and 4–6 years.
                          9. Varicella (Chickenpox)
                          • Protects against chickenpox.
                          • Given at 12–15 months and 4–6 years.
                          10. Hepatitis A (HepA)
                          • Protects against hepatitis A.
                          • Two doses given between 12–23 months, spaced at least 6 months apart.


                          7 to 18 Years Old
                          1. Tetanus, Diphtheria, and Pertussis (Tdap)
                          • Booster given at 11–12 years.
                          2. Human Papillomavirus (HPV)
                          • Protects against cancers caused by HPV.
                          • Two or three doses starting at 11–12 years.
                          3. Meningococcal (MenACWY)
                          • Protects against meningococcal diseases like meningitis.
                          • Given at 11–12 years and a booster at 16 years.
                          • Meningococcal B (MenB) is also available for certain teens, typically at 16–18 years.
                          4. Influenza (Flu)
                          • Annual vaccine.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

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                          • George KG George K

                            @taiwan_girl said in What a difference three years makes:

                            babies get "dozens and dozens of vaccines"?? 🤦


                            Birth to 6 Years Old
                            1. Hepatitis B (HepB)
                            • Protects against hepatitis B.
                            • Given at birth, 1–2 months, and 6–18 months.
                            2. Rotavirus (RV)
                            • Protects against severe diarrhea.
                            • Two or three doses depending on the vaccine type, given at 2 months and 4 months (and 6 months if needed).
                            3. Diphtheria, Tetanus, and Pertussis (DTaP)
                            • Protects against diphtheria, tetanus, and pertussis (whooping cough).
                            • Five doses given at 2 months, 4 months, 6 months, 15–18 months, and 4–6 years.
                            4. Haemophilus influenzae type b (Hib)
                            • Protects against bacterial infections such as meningitis.
                            • Given at 2 months, 4 months, (6 months if required), and 12–15 months.
                            5. Pneumococcal Conjugate (PCV13)
                            • Protects against pneumococcal infections like pneumonia and meningitis.
                            • Given at 2 months, 4 months, 6 months, and 12–15 months.
                            6. Polio (IPV)
                            • Protects against poliomyelitis.
                            • Given at 2 months, 4 months, 6–18 months, and 4–6 years.
                            7. Influenza (Flu)
                            • Protects against seasonal flu.
                            • Annual vaccine starting at 6 months.
                            8. Measles, Mumps, Rubella (MMR)
                            • Protects against measles, mumps, and rubella.
                            • Given at 12–15 months and 4–6 years.
                            9. Varicella (Chickenpox)
                            • Protects against chickenpox.
                            • Given at 12–15 months and 4–6 years.
                            10. Hepatitis A (HepA)
                            • Protects against hepatitis A.
                            • Two doses given between 12–23 months, spaced at least 6 months apart.


                            7 to 18 Years Old
                            1. Tetanus, Diphtheria, and Pertussis (Tdap)
                            • Booster given at 11–12 years.
                            2. Human Papillomavirus (HPV)
                            • Protects against cancers caused by HPV.
                            • Two or three doses starting at 11–12 years.
                            3. Meningococcal (MenACWY)
                            • Protects against meningococcal diseases like meningitis.
                            • Given at 11–12 years and a booster at 16 years.
                            • Meningococcal B (MenB) is also available for certain teens, typically at 16–18 years.
                            4. Influenza (Flu)
                            • Annual vaccine.

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                            @George-K Yep. Not dozens and dozens.

                            Maybe he was exaggerating for effect. Dont know.

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                              jon-nyc
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                              #21

                              That list is far more than most kids get. Certainly the ones required by many school systems are a small subset of that.

                              "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                              -Cormac McCarthy

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                              • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                                @George-K Yep. Not dozens and dozens.

                                Maybe he was exaggerating for effect. Dont know.

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                                @taiwan_girl said in What a difference three years makes:

                                @George-K Yep. Not dozens and dozens.

                                Maybe he was exaggerating for effect. Dont know.

                                He’s counting the boosters. If you follow the CDC recommendations, it’s 28 shots. And that’s not including the newest COVID recommendations.

                                The Brad

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                                  jon-nyc
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                                  28 shots for babies? Mine certainly didn’t.

                                  "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                  -Cormac McCarthy

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                                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                    28 shots for babies? Mine certainly didn’t.

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                                    @jon-nyc said in What a difference three years makes:

                                    28 shots for babies? Mine certainly didn’t.

                                    Through 3 years… I think he was probably playing a little loose with the word babies…

                                    The Brad

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                                      jon-nyc
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                                      My son got nothing close to that. How about yours?

                                      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                      -Cormac McCarthy

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                                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                        My son got nothing close to that. How about yours?

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                                        @jon-nyc said in What a difference three years makes:

                                        My son got nothing close to that. How about yours?

                                        I’d challenge you to go back and check his records. I didn’t count, but I remember Finley regularly getting 3-4 different shots at his visits and I didn’t go to all of them. Same with Lucas…

                                        The Brad

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                                          This is generally what I remember my kids getting. I think we even had a magnet on the fridge that was easier to read. I think in general my kids had about 10 or so vaccines. Sen Tuberville sounds a bit like an idiot....I know no one that died from the COVID vaccine, healthy or not.

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